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"grrrr, I sure hate how the people providing free recipes for me make me scroll twice to view the recipe" Super gross framing, especially when you're yanking t

"grrrr, I sure hate how the people providing free recipes for me make me scroll twice to view the recipe" Super gross framing, especially when you're yanking the content those other people actually created to siphon off their traffic.

neckardt 4y ago
> you're yanking the content those other people actually created I didn't get the impression they were directly scraping other sites. Also, it is very unlikely the recipe originated from those posters. I would guess those people learned the recipe from friends/family/cookbook/website, made some small modifications, then re-posted it in blog format. I find searching for recipes online to be difficult for the same reasons they mentioned and I appreciate the attempt at another solution. Hope this one catches on.
- guhidalg 4y ago
  You're right we are not scraping other websites. We rely on users recipes, maybe they copy the recipe from websites they like or it comes from their minds or their family cookbook; we don't care as long as its on the website. Thanks for the feedback!
wanderingjew 4y ago
There is no copyright on recipes; this is why the SEO laden essays exist. You can just steal recipes, because no one owns them anyway. Given the choice between a recipe site that has a thousand words about someone's grandmother or a recipe site that divides the ingredients by two, I'll choose the latter.
- zargon 4y ago
  Something being legal doesn't make it ethical. I'm also disgusted by this attitude of "screw you and the labor you invested to create and share this recipe."
  - brimble 4y ago
    Almost none of the sites publishing recipes online created those recipes. Very often, no-one there's even cooked them once.
    - zargon 4y ago
      I regularly get recipes from real people who really make original (as far as recipes can be original) or adapted recipes. No, it's not plagiarism all the way down.
- bobthepanda 4y ago
  Recipes specifically are not copyrighted because no lawmaker wants to throw grandma in jail for copying the side of a box. I think they technically count as "facts" which aren't copyrightable (e.g. whisking egg whites and sugar is going to eventually get you a meringue) A lot of "secret" family recipes usually have their origin in something like this.
krageon 4y ago
> Super gross Incredibly unhelpful and hostile way to start your argument, especially because you chose to put words in the author's mouth as well. Why even respond if all you have are emotional appeals to make people feel bad about their hard work providing something folks clearly want?
dspillett 4y ago
Given a great many of them are repeating thing others have given them, or often taking things from other pages, without giving credit, they are hardly in a position to complain. I know two wrongs don't make a right, but neither does one so by taking again the amount of rights in the world has not decreased.
brimble 4y ago
99.99% of that content was stolen in the first place. Most of those recipe sites, no-one involved in the site has ever cooked the recipe, despite what the ghost-written made-up story about it would lead you to believe. That's why so many have obvious mistakes in them.

neckardt 4y ago

> you're yanking the content those other people actually created I didn't get the impression they were directly scraping other sites. Also, it is very unlikely the recipe originated from those posters. I would guess those people learned the recipe from friends/family/cookbook/website, made some small modifications, then re-posted it in blog format. I find searching for recipes online to be difficult for the same reasons they mentioned and I appreciate the attempt at another solution. Hope this one catches on.

guhidalg 4y ago
You're right we are not scraping other websites. We rely on users recipes, maybe they copy the recipe from websites they like or it comes from their minds or their family cookbook; we don't care as long as its on the website. Thanks for the feedback!

wanderingjew 4y ago

There is no copyright on recipes; this is why the SEO laden essays exist. You can just steal recipes, because no one owns them anyway. Given the choice between a recipe site that has a thousand words about someone's grandmother or a recipe site that divides the ingredients by two, I'll choose the latter.

zargon 4y ago
Something being legal doesn't make it ethical. I'm also disgusted by this attitude of "screw you and the labor you invested to create and share this recipe."
- brimble 4y ago
  Almost none of the sites publishing recipes online created those recipes. Very often, no-one there's even cooked them once.
  - zargon 4y ago
    I regularly get recipes from real people who really make original (as far as recipes can be original) or adapted recipes. No, it's not plagiarism all the way down.
bobthepanda 4y ago
Recipes specifically are not copyrighted because no lawmaker wants to throw grandma in jail for copying the side of a box. I think they technically count as "facts" which aren't copyrightable (e.g. whisking egg whites and sugar is going to eventually get you a meringue) A lot of "secret" family recipes usually have their origin in something like this.

krageon 4y ago

> Super gross Incredibly unhelpful and hostile way to start your argument, especially because you chose to put words in the author's mouth as well. Why even respond if all you have are emotional appeals to make people feel bad about their hard work providing something folks clearly want?

dspillett 4y ago

Given a great many of them are repeating thing others have given them, or often taking things from other pages, without giving credit, they are hardly in a position to complain. I know two wrongs don't make a right, but neither does one so by taking again the amount of rights in the world has not decreased.

brimble 4y ago

99.99% of that content was stolen in the first place. Most of those recipe sites, no-one involved in the site has ever cooked the recipe, despite what the ghost-written made-up story about it would lead you to believe. That's why so many have obvious mistakes in them.