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Sounds nice in some ways. The stickler here is the focus on working in PST still. You’re not gonna get to travel to the EU and work async it sounds like. Which

Sounds nice in some ways. The stickler here is the focus on working in PST still. You’re not gonna get to travel to the EU and work async it sounds like. Which - while making sense - isn’t going to make a good portion of people who want this particularly happy. After all - remote but stuck in one time zone for working hours isn’t really a huge win. It’s dangling a carrot. In other news - sounds like comp is going down at Airbnb. Not a surprise.

ezfe 5y ago
Some people don't care about the local timezone, even without a need to stay up odd hours. And for western Europe, you don't even need to work ridiculous hours. If my current core hours (9am - 3pm) were in PST and I worked in Paris, I could finish my workday at 11pm in Paris.
sircastor 5y ago
I used to work for a company in the UK and live in the west coast. It’s mildly challenging but my experience was if you were competent to plan out your day’s work you’d be fine. If you ran into a show-stopper, capture it and being it up in your morning standup. They were all still in the office for at least a couple of hours when we got in.
pc86 5y ago
Working remotely and working asynchronously are two very different things. COVID didn't necessitate asynchronous work by any stretch, so I think it will take some time for even the tech industry to move toward that. If for no other reason because it required much better communication skills than probably 80% of people have. A lot of developers, regardless of skill level, would not do very well in a truly asynchronous environment.
spaetzleesser 5y ago
"After all - remote but stuck in one time zone for working hours isn’t really a huge win. It’s dangling a carrot." that's a pretty realistic approach in my opinion. My company has people in India and Europe and it sucks royally to set up meetings with them. Either they have to work at night or the US people have to. If I had to decide, I would mandate at least a 4 hour overlap in working times.
- bradlys 5y ago
  I never said it wasn’t practical or realistic. It’s still dangling a carrot though for the people that really care about this though.
tayo42 5y ago
I really liked working from Hawaii. I kept pt hours. I woke up at 6 with the roosters crowing. I felt a like code farmer. Then I'd be done by 2 and felt like I had a whole day to enjoy. It was awesome. I'm actually a night owl in my pacific tz non traveling life
- JCharante 5y ago
  I've been considering this. I like to get up early anyways, so being up and it immediately being core hours sounds good. Get to enjoy the afternoon at the beach etc.
HALtheWise 5y ago
I wonder if we could see areas of major cities cropping up that operate on a different timezone's schedule, similar to how "chinatowns" formed in many cities. For example, having a neighborhood in a major European city that operates on Pacific time (restaurants, streetlights, noise complaints, etc) could make it easier for anyone that's working remotely in the target timezone.

ezfe 5y ago

Some people don't care about the local timezone, even without a need to stay up odd hours. And for western Europe, you don't even need to work ridiculous hours. If my current core hours (9am - 3pm) were in PST and I worked in Paris, I could finish my workday at 11pm in Paris.

sircastor 5y ago

I used to work for a company in the UK and live in the west coast. It’s mildly challenging but my experience was if you were competent to plan out your day’s work you’d be fine. If you ran into a show-stopper, capture it and being it up in your morning standup. They were all still in the office for at least a couple of hours when we got in.

pc86 5y ago

Working remotely and working asynchronously are two very different things. COVID didn't necessitate asynchronous work by any stretch, so I think it will take some time for even the tech industry to move toward that. If for no other reason because it required much better communication skills than probably 80% of people have. A lot of developers, regardless of skill level, would not do very well in a truly asynchronous environment.

spaetzleesser 5y ago

"After all - remote but stuck in one time zone for working hours isn’t really a huge win. It’s dangling a carrot." that's a pretty realistic approach in my opinion. My company has people in India and Europe and it sucks royally to set up meetings with them. Either they have to work at night or the US people have to. If I had to decide, I would mandate at least a 4 hour overlap in working times.

bradlys 5y ago
I never said it wasn’t practical or realistic. It’s still dangling a carrot though for the people that really care about this though.

tayo42 5y ago

I really liked working from Hawaii. I kept pt hours. I woke up at 6 with the roosters crowing. I felt a like code farmer. Then I'd be done by 2 and felt like I had a whole day to enjoy. It was awesome. I'm actually a night owl in my pacific tz non traveling life

JCharante 5y ago
I've been considering this. I like to get up early anyways, so being up and it immediately being core hours sounds good. Get to enjoy the afternoon at the beach etc.

HALtheWise 5y ago

I wonder if we could see areas of major cities cropping up that operate on a different timezone's schedule, similar to how "chinatowns" formed in many cities. For example, having a neighborhood in a major European city that operates on Pacific time (restaurants, streetlights, noise complaints, etc) could make it easier for anyone that's working remotely in the target timezone.