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Slightly edited title to emphasize that this epaper is rollable. Videos on that link.

by retSava 4y ago

keikobadthebad 4y ago
The color updates are about 10x faster, and there's a 300ms black / white update mode too.
- nicoburns 4y ago
  Is 300ms fast? I thought Remarkable and similar products had it down to 40ms.
  - keikobadthebad 4y ago
    Yes simpler panels have even faster BW update. But the old 7-colour panels took 15s to do anything... so being able to do partial updates in a region at 300ms is a huge upgrade for them.
    - dTal 4y ago
      That's not true. Here's a video of a Kindle Touch from 2012 playing a movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr52ZWEZH4Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr52ZWEZH4Q
      - keikobadthebad 4y ago
        It looks like you missed the "old 7 colour panels" part. Like this (quoting <35s update across temperature) https://www.waveshare.com/5.65inch-e-Paper-Module-F.htm https://www.waveshare.com/5.65inch-e-Paper-Module-F.htm
        dTal 4y ago
        Yes, I did - I read 7 colors as 7 level grayscale. My apologies.
  - SekstiNi 4y ago
    Depends on how much of the screen is being refreshed, among other factors, but for writing the rM2 is apparently down to 24ms. [1] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5XUTnPQ5i4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5XUTnPQ5i4
SamBam 4y ago
That video could have been rather improved on, for a marketing video... The display didn't update after the second "page flip," so the user flipped a third time, and then it turned out the page had flipped to page 3 while it was closed and immediately flipped to page 4. I get that that's how it will probably actually happen, but re-shoot for a little bit of polish... Also the webpage didn't correctly fit on my Android browser (both Firefox and Chrome).
- dmix 4y ago
  Agreed. 16 second marketing videos doesn't "tease" anything it just makes you wonder what they are hiding.
- Izkata 4y ago
  > I get that that's how it will probably actually happen I don't think that's what happened. The rollable video shows two of the same pages in the same order; it looks more like a slideshow they didn't time right.
cubefox 4y ago
Including "(rollable)" is really misleading. The main innovation is the new subtractive color mixing technology. The rollability is nothing special.

Slightly edited title to emphasize that this epaper is rollable. Videos on that link.

keikobadthebad 4y ago

The color updates are about 10x faster, and there's a 300ms black / white update mode too.

nicoburns 4y ago
Is 300ms fast? I thought Remarkable and similar products had it down to 40ms.
- keikobadthebad 4y ago
  Yes simpler panels have even faster BW update. But the old 7-colour panels took 15s to do anything... so being able to do partial updates in a region at 300ms is a huge upgrade for them.
  - dTal 4y ago
    That's not true. Here's a video of a Kindle Touch from 2012 playing a movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr52ZWEZH4Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr52ZWEZH4Q
    - keikobadthebad 4y ago
      It looks like you missed the "old 7 colour panels" part. Like this (quoting <35s update across temperature) https://www.waveshare.com/5.65inch-e-Paper-Module-F.htm https://www.waveshare.com/5.65inch-e-Paper-Module-F.htm
      - dTal 4y ago
        Yes, I did - I read 7 colors as 7 level grayscale. My apologies.
- SekstiNi 4y ago
  Depends on how much of the screen is being refreshed, among other factors, but for writing the rM2 is apparently down to 24ms. [1] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5XUTnPQ5i4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5XUTnPQ5i4

SamBam 4y ago

That video could have been rather improved on, for a marketing video... The display didn't update after the second "page flip," so the user flipped a third time, and then it turned out the page had flipped to page 3 while it was closed and immediately flipped to page 4. I get that that's how it will probably actually happen, but re-shoot for a little bit of polish... Also the webpage didn't correctly fit on my Android browser (both Firefox and Chrome).

dmix 4y ago
Agreed. 16 second marketing videos doesn't "tease" anything it just makes you wonder what they are hiding.
Izkata 4y ago
> I get that that's how it will probably actually happen I don't think that's what happened. The rollable video shows two of the same pages in the same order; it looks more like a slideshow they didn't time right.

cubefox 4y ago

Including "(rollable)" is really misleading. The main innovation is the new subtractive color mixing technology. The rollability is nothing special.