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Color Identification System (for the color blind)

36 points by zemanel 15y ago

0x12 15y ago
http://jacquesmattheij.com/Idea+Dump+March+2011+Edition http://jacquesmattheij.com/Idea+Dump+March+2011+Edition #79 Cool! Maybe when color finally goes bust they can get the domain, it seems like a much more useful application for such a domain.
- zemanel 15y ago
  I'm at an entrepreneurship conference where the project owner (a designer) is an invited talker and i had the pleasure of also talking to him directly. This system is already being implemented, not also here in Portugal (on subway/street signs, product labels, ink resellers and many more) but across Europe and Americas (Brasil), apparently. Since i'm a developer, i immediately considered smartphone and possibly tablet applications and i hope we will brainstorm it soon :-) i found it a very exciting and valuable project, and a simple and effective solution to a complex problem (color blindness). Augmented reality applications where the 1st thing to come to mind, which would be awesome! And there are more simple applications that may help not only color blinded people to learn the code, but also non-color blinded people to get over an apparently serious stigma [bullying] against color blinded people.
  - 0x12 15y ago
    It always upsets me when those that won the genetic lottery in some way or other piss on those that lost. Anything to help restore the balance here is a good thing and should be encouraged. Super stuff, really.
    - zemanel 15y ago
      Curiously, when asked how he had the idea of developing that color code (which was obviously influenced by the fact that the person is an experienced designer [and teacher]) he replied that, as a kid he was one of the bullies [group], who picked on other color blinded kid(s) just because he/they couldn't identify crayon colors.
zemanel 15y ago
pt-pt to en link http://translate.google.pt/translate?sl=pt&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=pt-PT&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.coloradd.net%2Findex.asp http://translate.google.pt/translate?sl=pt&tl=en&js=...
fabiandesimone 15y ago
I'm colorblind. I see the value in this system but I'm not sure how does it actually improve my day to day in the sense that, me not being able to see colors doesn't have that big of a negative impact on my current day to day. (I wanted to be a pilot so being colorblind does have a negative impact sometimes) A few years back I purchased a pair of ChromaGen color glasses that allow me to see the color red. That was a WTF moment. The world made sense right then and there: Warning signs, skin, tomatoes, coke can, etc, etc. Is amazing how different (and greenish) the world is to me. To be honest I don't use them to much: every time I wear them for long, the word is full of colors and once I take them off I return to this green(ish) reality and my mood changes immediately. I feel down right away. I think I read somewhere that there are around 16.000.000 colorblind people in the US alone. I think this is a market that would pay big money to be able to see properly (I payed 1200 euros for a pair of glasses to just help me see the color red). I wish someone would find a solution to this.
- silvestrov 15y ago
  It's not for making the colors nicer to look at for you but to avoid you putting on clothes which doesn't match in colors and look really off-putting to the non-color-blind (e.g. red pants, pink T-shirt).
  - mikerg87 15y ago
    It can be more than that. Think safety. When I drive in Quebec the road signs are a slightly different hue than used in Ontario. I had a hard time figuring out which signs were informational - construction after 19h, and the "lane ends 200m" need different reactions. As far as clothes, I have a "garanimals" system with numbers to match up shirts and pants and optionally ties. Hopefully my wife is merciful and matching my clothes tastefully.
    - nraynaud 15y ago
      and when she's pissed at you, you look like a clown at work? :D
    - 15y ago
Thomaschaaf 15y ago
I was hoping for a site where I could finally enter a hex code or something and find out what color it is. I find it very hard to differ dark blue and purple and dark yellows and bright greens.
- skittlebrau 15y ago
  Being colorblind myself I can't attest to its quality, but: http://www.colblindor.com/color-name-hue/ http://www.colblindor.com/color-name-hue/ edit: apparently based on this (which has a worse color picker but probably better results): http://chir.ag/projects/name-that-color http://chir.ag/projects/name-that-color
- Raphael 15y ago
  Apologies if I am being insensitive, but really all you need to do is check the hue.
- zemanel 15y ago
  There is a small program for Windows (being developed) to sample and code a screen color sample, but much more could be done. Can you imagine the stress that receiving a corrected document (word processor) in which the sections to correct are red/yellow, to a color blinded secretary? It's real, there are case studies that relate these problems fron kids to grown ups.
- jeffreyparker 15y ago
  'WhatColor' is a nice and simple Windows app that names the color under the cursor. http://www.hikarun.com/e/ http://www.hikarun.com/e/
za 15y ago
Using the same symbol for red and blue (albeit rotated) seems a bit broken. eg a die with different colors on different faces. The shapes which currently add up to a square instead need to add up to something with a rotational symmetry of 1.
gte910h 15y ago
They need to use different shapes for the up and down symbols. Many things that have issue with color independence rotate freely.
- zemanel 15y ago
  Symbols have a lower line for indicating orientation, similar to what is used to distinguish 6 from 9.

36 points by zemanel 15y ago

0x12 15y ago

http://jacquesmattheij.com/Idea+Dump+March+2011+Edition http://jacquesmattheij.com/Idea+Dump+March+2011+Edition #79 Cool! Maybe when color finally goes bust they can get the domain, it seems like a much more useful application for such a domain.

zemanel 15y ago
I'm at an entrepreneurship conference where the project owner (a designer) is an invited talker and i had the pleasure of also talking to him directly. This system is already being implemented, not also here in Portugal (on subway/street signs, product labels, ink resellers and many more) but across Europe and Americas (Brasil), apparently. Since i'm a developer, i immediately considered smartphone and possibly tablet applications and i hope we will brainstorm it soon :-) i found it a very exciting and valuable project, and a simple and effective solution to a complex problem (color blindness). Augmented reality applications where the 1st thing to come to mind, which would be awesome! And there are more simple applications that may help not only color blinded people to learn the code, but also non-color blinded people to get over an apparently serious stigma [bullying] against color blinded people.
- 0x12 15y ago
  It always upsets me when those that won the genetic lottery in some way or other piss on those that lost. Anything to help restore the balance here is a good thing and should be encouraged. Super stuff, really.
  - zemanel 15y ago
    Curiously, when asked how he had the idea of developing that color code (which was obviously influenced by the fact that the person is an experienced designer [and teacher]) he replied that, as a kid he was one of the bullies [group], who picked on other color blinded kid(s) just because he/they couldn't identify crayon colors.

zemanel 15y ago

pt-pt to en link http://translate.google.pt/translate?sl=pt&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=pt-PT&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.coloradd.net%2Findex.asp http://translate.google.pt/translate?sl=pt&tl=en&js=...

fabiandesimone 15y ago

I'm colorblind. I see the value in this system but I'm not sure how does it actually improve my day to day in the sense that, me not being able to see colors doesn't have that big of a negative impact on my current day to day. (I wanted to be a pilot so being colorblind does have a negative impact sometimes) A few years back I purchased a pair of ChromaGen color glasses that allow me to see the color red. That was a WTF moment. The world made sense right then and there: Warning signs, skin, tomatoes, coke can, etc, etc. Is amazing how different (and greenish) the world is to me. To be honest I don't use them to much: every time I wear them for long, the word is full of colors and once I take them off I return to this green(ish) reality and my mood changes immediately. I feel down right away. I think I read somewhere that there are around 16.000.000 colorblind people in the US alone. I think this is a market that would pay big money to be able to see properly (I payed 1200 euros for a pair of glasses to just help me see the color red). I wish someone would find a solution to this.

silvestrov 15y ago
It's not for making the colors nicer to look at for you but to avoid you putting on clothes which doesn't match in colors and look really off-putting to the non-color-blind (e.g. red pants, pink T-shirt).
- mikerg87 15y ago
  It can be more than that. Think safety. When I drive in Quebec the road signs are a slightly different hue than used in Ontario. I had a hard time figuring out which signs were informational - construction after 19h, and the "lane ends 200m" need different reactions. As far as clothes, I have a "garanimals" system with numbers to match up shirts and pants and optionally ties. Hopefully my wife is merciful and matching my clothes tastefully.
  - nraynaud 15y ago
    and when she's pissed at you, you look like a clown at work? :D
  - 15y ago

Thomaschaaf 15y ago

I was hoping for a site where I could finally enter a hex code or something and find out what color it is. I find it very hard to differ dark blue and purple and dark yellows and bright greens.

skittlebrau 15y ago
Being colorblind myself I can't attest to its quality, but: http://www.colblindor.com/color-name-hue/ http://www.colblindor.com/color-name-hue/ edit: apparently based on this (which has a worse color picker but probably better results): http://chir.ag/projects/name-that-color http://chir.ag/projects/name-that-color
Raphael 15y ago
Apologies if I am being insensitive, but really all you need to do is check the hue.
zemanel 15y ago
There is a small program for Windows (being developed) to sample and code a screen color sample, but much more could be done. Can you imagine the stress that receiving a corrected document (word processor) in which the sections to correct are red/yellow, to a color blinded secretary? It's real, there are case studies that relate these problems fron kids to grown ups.
jeffreyparker 15y ago
'WhatColor' is a nice and simple Windows app that names the color under the cursor. http://www.hikarun.com/e/ http://www.hikarun.com/e/

za 15y ago

Using the same symbol for red and blue (albeit rotated) seems a bit broken. eg a die with different colors on different faces. The shapes which currently add up to a square instead need to add up to something with a rotational symmetry of 1.

gte910h 15y ago

They need to use different shapes for the up and down symbols. Many things that have issue with color independence rotate freely.

zemanel 15y ago
Symbols have a lower line for indicating orientation, similar to what is used to distinguish 6 from 9.