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Who would have thought that Trump back in 2018 could so accurately predict Germany's current problems with Russian gas. It seems more like Germany's leaders ba

Who would have thought that Trump back in 2018 could so accurately predict Germany's current problems with Russian gas. It seems more like Germany's leaders back then were more interested in appearing green. One key quote is this one: "The green movement is more interested in reducing energy consumption than in reducing emissions." Which is of course not going to happen, so it makes little sense to wind down nuclear plants across the country. The right thing to do would be to recognize the error from 2018 and start powering up those nuclear power plants again.

imtringued 4y ago
I don't know where you are getting your information from but Merkel isn't a member of the green party/movement. Maybe you should have replaced "green movement" with "conservative party" because increasing energy efficiency was one of the things they used to print on their ads.
ncmncm 4y ago
- polotics 4y ago
  Appeal to lack of authority? Trump being a crook doesn't change that in this instance he was right.
  - senectus1 4y ago
    a stopped clock will be right twice a day... But I'm not sure he was right there either. Sure some of what he says bares a resemblance to Germanies situation. Hardly what I'd call "being right".
  - hackeraccount 4y ago
    I think it's less about Trump being a crook then being an idiot; so, if even Trump can see NS2/closing down nuclear power plants/not building LNG infrastructure is a mistake how is it that reasonably intelligent German politicians could not?
ChuckNorris89 4y ago
Well, Germany's leadership was and still is in bed with Russia, from Schröder to Scholz, so naturally importing Russian gas would be 'greener' than the alternatives. The whole thing is a facade, the political leadership is insanely corrupt, with Scholz at the center. As long as Germany's industrialists keep getting cheap gas and cheap workforce form the east so their factories can make stuff cheaply, then nothing else matters. https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1516545893805273091 https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1516545893805273091
- theshrike79 4y ago
  And Belgium's anti-nuclear energy minister worked for Gazprom. [0] Guess what she suggested Belgium use to replace nuclear? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Russian gas of course! =) [0] https://twitter.com/ziontree/status/1497998920739274757 https://twitter.com/ziontree/status/1497998920739274757
  - sharken 4y ago
    It's not like Denmark is any better, the Minister of Climate Dan Jørgensen shares the view that nuclear power is bad. Makes you question if Europe is really able to do anything seriously about the environment. https://energywatch.com/EnergyNews/Policy___Trading/article13609128.ece https://energywatch.com/EnergyNews/Policy___Trading/article1...
wewxjfq 4y ago
> Who would have thought that Trump back in 2018 could so accurately predict Germany's current problems with Russian gas. Oh not this again. American politicians only care about Europe when they want to make profit or surveil its citizens. Trump (or better, his speech writers) were upset that, at the time, Germany banned fracking.

imtringued 4y ago

I don't know where you are getting your information from but Merkel isn't a member of the green party/movement. Maybe you should have replaced "green movement" with "conservative party" because increasing energy efficiency was one of the things they used to print on their ads.

ncmncm 4y ago

polotics 4y ago
Appeal to lack of authority? Trump being a crook doesn't change that in this instance he was right.
- senectus1 4y ago
  a stopped clock will be right twice a day... But I'm not sure he was right there either. Sure some of what he says bares a resemblance to Germanies situation. Hardly what I'd call "being right".
- hackeraccount 4y ago
  I think it's less about Trump being a crook then being an idiot; so, if even Trump can see NS2/closing down nuclear power plants/not building LNG infrastructure is a mistake how is it that reasonably intelligent German politicians could not?

ChuckNorris89 4y ago

Well, Germany's leadership was and still is in bed with Russia, from Schröder to Scholz, so naturally importing Russian gas would be 'greener' than the alternatives. The whole thing is a facade, the political leadership is insanely corrupt, with Scholz at the center. As long as Germany's industrialists keep getting cheap gas and cheap workforce form the east so their factories can make stuff cheaply, then nothing else matters. https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1516545893805273091 https://twitter.com/noclador/status/1516545893805273091

theshrike79 4y ago
And Belgium's anti-nuclear energy minister worked for Gazprom. [0] Guess what she suggested Belgium use to replace nuclear? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Russian gas of course! =) [0] https://twitter.com/ziontree/status/1497998920739274757 https://twitter.com/ziontree/status/1497998920739274757
- sharken 4y ago
  It's not like Denmark is any better, the Minister of Climate Dan Jørgensen shares the view that nuclear power is bad. Makes you question if Europe is really able to do anything seriously about the environment. https://energywatch.com/EnergyNews/Policy___Trading/article13609128.ece https://energywatch.com/EnergyNews/Policy___Trading/article1...

wewxjfq 4y ago

> Who would have thought that Trump back in 2018 could so accurately predict Germany's current problems with Russian gas. Oh not this again. American politicians only care about Europe when they want to make profit or surveil its citizens. Trump (or better, his speech writers) were upset that, at the time, Germany banned fracking.