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> interesting to see if he can find the elusive path of maintaining free speech I am also utterly gobsmacked how people here jump to the defense of billionaire
by DyslexicAtheist 5y ago
> interesting to see if he can find the elusive path of maintaining free speech
I am also utterly gobsmacked how people here jump to the defense of billionaires.
> Taking a moment to think about how utterly crazy it is that in 2022 a company with a significant dataset of private and public communications, that has municipalities, companies and governments on the platform, can switch ownership with pretty much zero scrutiny -- https://twitter.com/emilybell/status/1518580094649966592 https://twitter.com/emilybell/status/1518580094649966592
- dragonwriter 5y ago> utterly insane how people here jump to the defense of billionaires. The discussion forums hosted by a startup accelerator are friendly to major capitalists? Who would have expected it?
- gspr 5y agoNice how you swapped "billionaires" for "major capitalists" in building your straw man, there!
- dragonwriter 5y agoBecause there are a whole bunch of non-haut-bourgeois billionaires?
- dfdfsdfasdfsaf 5y ago
- jjeaff 5y agoStartup types are basically the archetype of "temporarily inconvenienced billionaires".
- jimbokun 5y agoI don't see the relevance. Whatever laws protect that data or communications will continue to exist. And if you're just taking it on good faith that the current ownership won't do anything shady even if there's no laws preventing it, that's a much bigger problem to address.
- pie_flavor 5y agoThere isn't any particularly good reason to trust the old management over the new management. It's always been unaccountable billionaires.
- KerrAvon 5y agoDepends on what you mean by "trust." A public company has more accountability in various ways than a private one.
- jawarner 5y agoThat’s interesting. I’ve always figured it’s the opposite, since a public company is beholden to fiduciary duty. Would you like to elaborate?
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- ChrisLomont 5y ago"Public" only adds accountability benefits for protecting public investors to ensure they're not robbed. There's little more accountability benefiting any other outsider.
- cercatrova 5y agoNo one is forcing those entities to use Twitter. They can post on their own website that they control if they so wish.
- gameman144 5y agoI mean, if we aren't okay with this dataset existing under new ownership, why were we okay with it existing under the previous ownership? If this dataset is dangerous, regulation is the way to solve that, not relying on the benevolence of corporate boards and shareholders.
- mgfist 5y ago> Taking a moment to think about how utterly crazy it is that in 2022 a company with a significant dataset of private and public communications, that has municipalities, companies and governments on the platform, can switch ownership with pretty much zero scrutiny What you're saying is why do regulations allow for this? Idk, but this is a regulatory question, and therefore it should be directed at the government not at the billionaire in question.
- dotnet00 5y agoI'm also utterly gobsmacked how people here think "jump to the defense of billionaires" is in any way a substantive counter-argument.
- heromal 5y agoWell, it's simple. BILLIONAIRES BAD. Do you get it now?
- DyslexicAtheist 5y agospoken like a true fanboi of a person whose family comes from a mining background in apartheid South Africa. and who has never been back to the place ever since apartheid was abolished. Musk like Thiel is a racist and people who support him are also likely fans of Ayn Rand. But you know all that. Personally I think we should strive to live in a society where those type of people do not feel safe (but you knew that too).
- Razengan 5y ago[flagged]
- khazhoux 5y agoEntirely different. Oligarchs are individuals who personally own and control obscene amounts of a country's infrastructure, through backdoor deals. American Business Titans are individuals who personally own and control obscene amounts of a country's infrastructure, through outsized stock ownership. And they wear fitted t-shirts instead of creepy euro-suits.
- failuser 5y agoWho calls powerful men in commie countries oligarchs? They are Politburo members. Russia is a non-commie country for 30 years.
- beowulfey 5y agoBillionaires are the celebrities and royalty for tech folks. Human beings thrive on hierarchy and we need to have people above us and below us in order to know where we stand in society. Often people look up the ladder in awe and respect because we all want to move up and be there ourselves one day, so it makes sense to venerate that position in order to justify it within ourselves subconsciously.