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Currently at 1.8m ish total comp: - 1.2m cash - 300k RSUs (probably worthless or I leave before 4 year vesting cliff) - 200k equity (only one job is at a

Currently at 1.8m ish total comp: - 1.2m cash - 300k RSUs (probably worthless or I leave before 4 year vesting cliff) - 200k equity (only one job is at a publicly traded company) - <150k cash bonus

ttyp3 4y ago
More power to you, man. I find 0..1 of these startups provides enough daily aggravation. (Though that could argue for throwing a pile together and ending it quickly.)
- froaway4job 4y ago
  I also dislike working at these places. This is something I'll be doing for a few years and then leaving corporate life with a big pile.
randomhodler84 4y ago
- s1artibartfast 4y ago
  IF the employers are happy with the work, or even not, nobody is getting exploited here. IF the work suffers, they are free to fire. For the properties, people need to rent from someone. Landlords are only scum if they mistreat their tenants.
  - randomhodler84 4y ago
    I have no issue with employers being exploited, they would exploit you too. But the housing thing is gross — the reason housing is so distorted is that the wealthy are actively trying to deny folks access to housing. There are so many better ways. Landlording is always a scum action. It is a personal choice to seek rent with no benefit to society while enriching oneself and preventing others from building their own wealth. Landlords hobble the middle class wealth generation, extract most of the gains from industry and then refuse to maintain their properties. We need to make it so uncool to be a landlord. They are all scum, no exceptions.
    - s1artibartfast 4y ago
      I'm sorry to hear that you have had bad experiences with landlords. I have had some really good ones, and some mediocre ones. Both groups helped me have a place to sleep when I saved to purchase a house, so to that extent, they upheld their part of the bargain. I would rather work with them than live in a charity shelter or rent from the government.
      - randomhodler84 4y ago
        I’d rather that housing didn’t cost a death pledge for 30 years of labor — like say every other time in human history pre-1980s. I get that they provide you a house, me too, however if they didn’t exist housing wouldn't be a problem. It’s the best of a bad situation. At best a landlord that treats you well is the abnormality — they are still scum who deprives everyone else from ever owning a place.
        s1artibartfast 4y ago
        I'll admit, it is an interesting thought experiment to explore what a society would look like with a 100% moratorium on rentals. It seems like you would have to do away with down payments or there would be widespread homelessness. I imagine mortgage rates would be through the roof, as new occupants wouldn't have equity in the house to protect. Owner occupation rates are about the same since the 1960s, and worse before. I wonder if there are examples that approach this ideal. Perhaps family homesteads during the US westward expansion, but even then there was a lot of landless workers.
- x13 4y ago
  Sir, This is a Wendy's, not TikTok. Please don't call people names.
- froaway4job 4y ago
  I was going to spend some time justifying my rental portfolio but alas I fear it will fall on deaf ears. Thank you for your somewhat constructive criticism. I'm sorry to hear that you feel that way. Given your username, I assume you are just as worldly as I am. In that case, I hope your HODLing habits lead to success. Eventually, you will become the same "evil" that you despise... you will eventually become... me. HODL!!
  - randomhodler84 4y ago
    Thank you! My post was overly emotional and it triggered me when I read you were landlording. Like — I have no issue with you drawing multiple wages, but then using that money to extort rent from working class folks just was a bridge too far for me. As a renter I have experienced some really dirty actions from landlords, and given the drop in housing inventory, landchadding just seems exploitative with no gain for society. There are many better investments that do not involve such depriving folks of the housing stock, don’t have the stress of dealing with people and better returns. Leasing property is like lazy stupid money that could do better elsewhere. I don’t think money makes one evil. But one can use it in evil ways. I have done well over the years but I always to to consider what impact my investments have on the world or society.
    - azth 4y ago
      Just because you have had a bad experience with a landlord does not make all landlords bad. Just like you probably had a bad experience at a restaurant, does that mean all restaurants are bad?
      - randomhodler84 4y ago
        This isn’t a good analogy. And landlords like to delude and justify that they are not one of the bad guys to themselves. They say oh that’s just your experience with bad ones. No, the entire system is rotten. If restaurants went round gobbling up the food supply and then the only place to eat was at exploitative prices, then yeah, all restaurants would be scum.
strikelaserclaw 4y ago
jeez, where are you getting jobs where you can work like 2-3 hrs a day and get paid 250k + ? Are u a leetcode god or a 10x programmer?
- froaway4job 4y ago
  Senior to Staff positions at medium to large private or mid cap public companies expect little from their engineers :). Definitely not 10x and I suck at leetcode style problems. I'm probably a 2xer who acts like a 1xer. That's the real secret. Don't overachieve.
  - deleted 4y ago
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  - quadcore 4y ago
    You are actually the living proof there is a 5x to 10x difference between some programmers. Since you have 4.5 jobs. Thanks for coming forward.
    - froaway4job 4y ago
      I guess technically the math works out that way :) In my opinion I'm seriously mediocre as an engineer. Slightly above average at best. I'm just good at managing my time, which is more of a business/personal skill than any engineering skill.
      - strikelaserclaw 4y ago
        sometimes i won't feel like starting a task for like 3 hrs into my workday, you must be a god at sticking to a schedule.
  - the_seer 4y ago
    Do you have an email interested individuals can contact you on?

Currently at 1.8m ish total comp: - 1.2m cash - 300k RSUs (probably worthless or I leave before 4 year vesting cliff) - 200k equity (only one job is at a publicly traded company) - <150k cash bonus

ttyp3 4y ago

More power to you, man. I find 0..1 of these startups provides enough daily aggravation. (Though that could argue for throwing a pile together and ending it quickly.)

froaway4job 4y ago
I also dislike working at these places. This is something I'll be doing for a few years and then leaving corporate life with a big pile.

randomhodler84 4y ago

s1artibartfast 4y ago
IF the employers are happy with the work, or even not, nobody is getting exploited here. IF the work suffers, they are free to fire. For the properties, people need to rent from someone. Landlords are only scum if they mistreat their tenants.
- randomhodler84 4y ago
  I have no issue with employers being exploited, they would exploit you too. But the housing thing is gross — the reason housing is so distorted is that the wealthy are actively trying to deny folks access to housing. There are so many better ways. Landlording is always a scum action. It is a personal choice to seek rent with no benefit to society while enriching oneself and preventing others from building their own wealth. Landlords hobble the middle class wealth generation, extract most of the gains from industry and then refuse to maintain their properties. We need to make it so uncool to be a landlord. They are all scum, no exceptions.
  - s1artibartfast 4y ago
    I'm sorry to hear that you have had bad experiences with landlords. I have had some really good ones, and some mediocre ones. Both groups helped me have a place to sleep when I saved to purchase a house, so to that extent, they upheld their part of the bargain. I would rather work with them than live in a charity shelter or rent from the government.
    - randomhodler84 4y ago
      I’d rather that housing didn’t cost a death pledge for 30 years of labor — like say every other time in human history pre-1980s. I get that they provide you a house, me too, however if they didn’t exist housing wouldn't be a problem. It’s the best of a bad situation. At best a landlord that treats you well is the abnormality — they are still scum who deprives everyone else from ever owning a place.
      - s1artibartfast 4y ago
        I'll admit, it is an interesting thought experiment to explore what a society would look like with a 100% moratorium on rentals. It seems like you would have to do away with down payments or there would be widespread homelessness. I imagine mortgage rates would be through the roof, as new occupants wouldn't have equity in the house to protect. Owner occupation rates are about the same since the 1960s, and worse before. I wonder if there are examples that approach this ideal. Perhaps family homesteads during the US westward expansion, but even then there was a lot of landless workers.
x13 4y ago
Sir, This is a Wendy's, not TikTok. Please don't call people names.
froaway4job 4y ago
I was going to spend some time justifying my rental portfolio but alas I fear it will fall on deaf ears. Thank you for your somewhat constructive criticism. I'm sorry to hear that you feel that way. Given your username, I assume you are just as worldly as I am. In that case, I hope your HODLing habits lead to success. Eventually, you will become the same "evil" that you despise... you will eventually become... me. HODL!!
- randomhodler84 4y ago
  Thank you! My post was overly emotional and it triggered me when I read you were landlording. Like — I have no issue with you drawing multiple wages, but then using that money to extort rent from working class folks just was a bridge too far for me. As a renter I have experienced some really dirty actions from landlords, and given the drop in housing inventory, landchadding just seems exploitative with no gain for society. There are many better investments that do not involve such depriving folks of the housing stock, don’t have the stress of dealing with people and better returns. Leasing property is like lazy stupid money that could do better elsewhere. I don’t think money makes one evil. But one can use it in evil ways. I have done well over the years but I always to to consider what impact my investments have on the world or society.
  - azth 4y ago
    Just because you have had a bad experience with a landlord does not make all landlords bad. Just like you probably had a bad experience at a restaurant, does that mean all restaurants are bad?
    - randomhodler84 4y ago
      This isn’t a good analogy. And landlords like to delude and justify that they are not one of the bad guys to themselves. They say oh that’s just your experience with bad ones. No, the entire system is rotten. If restaurants went round gobbling up the food supply and then the only place to eat was at exploitative prices, then yeah, all restaurants would be scum.

strikelaserclaw 4y ago

jeez, where are you getting jobs where you can work like 2-3 hrs a day and get paid 250k + ? Are u a leetcode god or a 10x programmer?

froaway4job 4y ago
Senior to Staff positions at medium to large private or mid cap public companies expect little from their engineers :). Definitely not 10x and I suck at leetcode style problems. I'm probably a 2xer who acts like a 1xer. That's the real secret. Don't overachieve.
- deleted 4y ago
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- quadcore 4y ago
  You are actually the living proof there is a 5x to 10x difference between some programmers. Since you have 4.5 jobs. Thanks for coming forward.
  - froaway4job 4y ago
    I guess technically the math works out that way :) In my opinion I'm seriously mediocre as an engineer. Slightly above average at best. I'm just good at managing my time, which is more of a business/personal skill than any engineering skill.
    - strikelaserclaw 4y ago
      sometimes i won't feel like starting a task for like 3 hrs into my workday, you must be a god at sticking to a schedule.
- the_seer 4y ago
  Do you have an email interested individuals can contact you on?