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> It seemed to me that his success was more the result of a commitment, both personally and financially, to building EVs that no one had previously had. Not ev

> It seemed to me that his success was more the result of a commitment, both personally and financially, to building EVs that no one had previously had. Not even that. Other people founded the company in 2003; he became Tesla's fourth CEO when they were about to launch the Roadster in 2008.

wand3r 5y ago
I don’t know why this is such a meme. According to elon basically him, jb and martin eberhard founded tesla which was a holding company that acquired AC propulsion and the basic IP. Regardless, of how you label it Elon created Tesla and there is no Tesla without elon. Do we say the Warren Buffet owes everything to the founder of the New Bedford based Jewelry company Berkshire Hathaway? Hate Musk all you want but IDK why people try and discredit him with stuff like this EDIT: Changed AP => AC
- FartyMcFarter 5y ago
  > According to elon basically him, jb and martin eberhard founded tesla which was a holding company that acquired AP propulsion (i think it was called) and the basic IP. That's not what the actual founders say though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eblPwXFb7TE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eblPwXFb7TE They say he was not a founder within the first minute of the video.
  - Melatonic 5y ago
    He was definitely not a founder of Tesla - it was a small startup in the industrial area of San Carlos.
dahfizz 5y ago
People get so hung up on this. Musk was the first investor in Tesla, and chairman of the board from the beginning. While chairman, he was involved in the business. He took over as CEO in 2008 and has grown Tesla into the world's largest car company. Trying to claim Tesla's success is not due to Musk is just wrong.
- spurgu 5y ago
  > the world's largest car company Nitpick: The most valued car company. Many larger companies in terms of employees and car output. Everything else sounds right though!

wand3r 5y ago

I don’t know why this is such a meme. According to elon basically him, jb and martin eberhard founded tesla which was a holding company that acquired AC propulsion and the basic IP. Regardless, of how you label it Elon created Tesla and there is no Tesla without elon. Do we say the Warren Buffet owes everything to the founder of the New Bedford based Jewelry company Berkshire Hathaway? Hate Musk all you want but IDK why people try and discredit him with stuff like this EDIT: Changed AP => AC

FartyMcFarter 5y ago
> According to elon basically him, jb and martin eberhard founded tesla which was a holding company that acquired AP propulsion (i think it was called) and the basic IP. That's not what the actual founders say though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eblPwXFb7TE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eblPwXFb7TE They say he was not a founder within the first minute of the video.
- Melatonic 5y ago
  He was definitely not a founder of Tesla - it was a small startup in the industrial area of San Carlos.

dahfizz 5y ago

People get so hung up on this. Musk was the first investor in Tesla, and chairman of the board from the beginning. While chairman, he was involved in the business. He took over as CEO in 2008 and has grown Tesla into the world's largest car company. Trying to claim Tesla's success is not due to Musk is just wrong.

spurgu 5y ago
> the world's largest car company Nitpick: The most valued car company. Many larger companies in terms of employees and car output. Everything else sounds right though!