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> when I tried the first iPhone What about when you tried the first touchscreen smartphone, which was probably resistive and came with a stylus? Seems unfair

> when I tried the first iPhone What about when you tried the first touchscreen smartphone, which was probably resistive and came with a stylus? Seems unfair to compare an emerging tech with the iPhone (which took an emerging tech to the next level) off the bat. It's almost an argument in bad faith.

inetknght 4y ago
Not the person you're replying to but: tbqh I absolutely much prefer a stylus over my fat fingers.
hn_throwaway_99 4y ago
On the contrary, I remember trying my first VR headset in the 90s when it was "Max Headroom-esque", so it's a bit rich to demand that I only consider the earliest smartphones by comparison, when VR has been progressing for 30 years. And, to clarify, I think the current crop of VR headsets are quite cool. But again, I see them cool in small units of time. I also think many, many people have come to the realization that there is too much ever-present technology in their lives, and the last thing they want is to become the humans from Wall-E. When it comes to crypto, given how antiquated our current financial settlement systems are, I can see its utility as a backend settlement layer, but 95% of what I see peddled in the crypto space is just some other get-rich-quick scheme.
- sombremesa 4y ago
  > to demand that I only consider the earliest smartphones The earliest smartphones did not even have touchscreens, I just used an example that would be easier to digest.
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shakna 4y ago
When I tried my first PDA, which was before anyone had stuck a SIM card in one, I was completely blown away. I wrote an entire book on the thing, and emailed it to myself for final print template tweaks, before sending to a publisher. After writing nearly a million words on it, I was just as excited about it as when I first got it. Probably helped that the latency of the device back then was completely unnoticeable, in contrast with today's smart devices that can't keep up with my typing on their touchscreens.
blackearl 4y ago
I have an OG Vive, Oculus Quest, and a Cosmos with the wireless adapter. Several hundred hours of SteamVR over the course of the past few years. All that said, I can do 1-2 hours of VR every other day or so at most. The idea that this will be as popular as smartphones in the next 5, even 10 years seems crazy to me. Being "in VR" is pretty exhausting no matter how lightweight the headset is.
- disgruntledphd2 4y ago
  AR will be the next smartphone, VR will probably mostly be used for collaboration and TV replacement.

inetknght 4y ago

Not the person you're replying to but: tbqh I absolutely much prefer a stylus over my fat fingers.

hn_throwaway_99 4y ago

On the contrary, I remember trying my first VR headset in the 90s when it was "Max Headroom-esque", so it's a bit rich to demand that I only consider the earliest smartphones by comparison, when VR has been progressing for 30 years. And, to clarify, I think the current crop of VR headsets are quite cool. But again, I see them cool in small units of time. I also think many, many people have come to the realization that there is too much ever-present technology in their lives, and the last thing they want is to become the humans from Wall-E. When it comes to crypto, given how antiquated our current financial settlement systems are, I can see its utility as a backend settlement layer, but 95% of what I see peddled in the crypto space is just some other get-rich-quick scheme.

sombremesa 4y ago
> to demand that I only consider the earliest smartphones The earliest smartphones did not even have touchscreens, I just used an example that would be easier to digest.

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shakna 4y ago

When I tried my first PDA, which was before anyone had stuck a SIM card in one, I was completely blown away. I wrote an entire book on the thing, and emailed it to myself for final print template tweaks, before sending to a publisher. After writing nearly a million words on it, I was just as excited about it as when I first got it. Probably helped that the latency of the device back then was completely unnoticeable, in contrast with today's smart devices that can't keep up with my typing on their touchscreens.

blackearl 4y ago

I have an OG Vive, Oculus Quest, and a Cosmos with the wireless adapter. Several hundred hours of SteamVR over the course of the past few years. All that said, I can do 1-2 hours of VR every other day or so at most. The idea that this will be as popular as smartphones in the next 5, even 10 years seems crazy to me. Being "in VR" is pretty exhausting no matter how lightweight the headset is.

disgruntledphd2 4y ago
AR will be the next smartphone, VR will probably mostly be used for collaboration and TV replacement.