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I guess I disagree with your taxonomy, and I think The Squad has wrestled with being progressives while also being unwilling to let identity issues go. I'm very

I guess I disagree with your taxonomy, and I think The Squad has wrestled with being progressives while also being unwilling to let identity issues go. I'm very pro-Warren, but I think if you look at the policies pushed not just by her but by the other women you named, you'll find a lot of economic and climate policy (I mean Green New Deal, come on). The right-wing propaganda machine is very hard on ambitious women (as a former Hillary staffer I can attest to this), and it's definitely part of the plan to smear these folks in particular. I think we should be asking why there's a concerted, well-funded messaging effort against these women and not against people saying similar things like Hakeem Jeffries or Bernie Sanders. My personal view is that it's raw misogyny. And, frankly, I think you're repeating a lot of it here. In particular your use of the word "cheerleaded" is a pretty gendered criticism. We're all misogynists, we're all racists, we're all homophobes, because of the culture we grew up in. But by introspecting on this, we're able to fight against it and create a fairer society.

throwaway894345 5y ago
The right has plenty of criticism for Sanders but they don’t criticize him for being an identitarian because he largely isn’t. There’s nothing wrong with gendered language, but that wasn’t how I was using “cheerleading” and if we want to lob accusations it seems pretty sexist to imply that men oughtn’t be cheerleaders.
- throwaway894345 5y ago
  Weird. I used the edit button to add a sentence and HN converted it into a second comment.
throwaway894345 5y ago
The right has plenty of criticism for Sanders but they don’t criticize him for being an identitarian because he largely isn’t. There’s nothing wrong with gendered language, but that wasn’t how I was using “cheerleading” and if we want to lob accusations it seems pretty sexist to imply that men oughtn’t be cheerleaders. (: Anyway, I reject most identity doctrine, including that we are all racist, sexist, etc.
- camgunz 5y ago
  > The right has plenty of criticism for Sanders but they don’t criticize him for being an identitarian because he largely isn’t. It feels like you missed Sanders' entire campaign then [0] [1] [2]. The main differences between Warren and Sanders is that Warren's policies are better, and Sanders is a Jewish man (I feel like potentially being our first Jewish president didn't get enough play, but it would have been a powerful moment for the US and humanity as a whole). > it seems pretty sexist to imply that men oughtn’t be cheerleaders If you use phrases structured as "[stereotype] [people the stereotype is used against]", that's a stereotype. If your excuse is that the stereotype isn't absolute, it's a tacit admission that you used a stereotype against people. Own it or don't, up to you. [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3mvbxeA1UA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3mvbxeA1UA [1]: https://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-racial-justice/ https://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-racial-justice/ [2]: https://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-womens-rights/ https://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-womens-rights/

throwaway894345 5y ago

The right has plenty of criticism for Sanders but they don’t criticize him for being an identitarian because he largely isn’t. There’s nothing wrong with gendered language, but that wasn’t how I was using “cheerleading” and if we want to lob accusations it seems pretty sexist to imply that men oughtn’t be cheerleaders.

throwaway894345 5y ago
Weird. I used the edit button to add a sentence and HN converted it into a second comment.

throwaway894345 5y ago

camgunz 5y ago
> The right has plenty of criticism for Sanders but they don’t criticize him for being an identitarian because he largely isn’t. It feels like you missed Sanders' entire campaign then [0] [1] [2]. The main differences between Warren and Sanders is that Warren's policies are better, and Sanders is a Jewish man (I feel like potentially being our first Jewish president didn't get enough play, but it would have been a powerful moment for the US and humanity as a whole). > it seems pretty sexist to imply that men oughtn’t be cheerleaders If you use phrases structured as "[stereotype] [people the stereotype is used against]", that's a stereotype. If your excuse is that the stereotype isn't absolute, it's a tacit admission that you used a stereotype against people. Own it or don't, up to you. [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3mvbxeA1UA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3mvbxeA1UA [1]: https://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-racial-justice/ https://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-racial-justice/ [2]: https://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-womens-rights/ https://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-womens-rights/