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Most of those have danger intrinsicly with how they function, making it safe mostly means not using it. Many of them are also are largely only unsafe to the per

Most of those have danger intrinsicly with how they function, making it safe mostly means not using it. Many of them are also are largely only unsafe to the person using them. Those unsafe to the general public have a _large_ amount of regulation and testing around them. Tesla's summon thing is unsafe because they can't be assed to take the time to implement it well and QA it appropriately. Summon isn't intrinsicly unsafe, they just have a half-assed implementation of it. Like many other of their features, they're too interested in pretending it works better than it does, and just throwing a warning in some doc somewhere as cover. Also really all of them are dangerous to the Tesla owner/operator, where an argument could be made that they're accepting the risk, but _also_ to the general public. The general public should not be the victims of Tesla's shitty, unprepared beta test(s), especially not just to satisfy Musk's impatience.

Retric 5y ago
Tractors on public roads get to skip out on basically all safety testing, yet one recently killed a friend. They are more dangerous than Tesla summon both in deaths per year and deaths per mile yet the general response response from regulations is meh. Most Pollution gets the same free pass until something extreme happens, it’s simply the default to allow just about anything new until it proves a significant issue.
- kadoban 5y ago
  > yet one recently killed a friend Very sorry to hear that, that's horrible. > They are more dangerous than Tesla summon both in deaths per year and deaths per mile I don't think deaths per year is that compelling as a metric for this. Teslas are becoming more common, so it's going to get worse. Deaths per mile, where are you getting data for that? I mistrust anything from Tesla, they have a history of coloring the truth, at best. Anyway though, I fundamentally disagree with this entire thought process of "X is worse, therefore we can't fix Y". Let's just fix them all!

Retric 5y ago

Tractors on public roads get to skip out on basically all safety testing, yet one recently killed a friend. They are more dangerous than Tesla summon both in deaths per year and deaths per mile yet the general response response from regulations is meh. Most Pollution gets the same free pass until something extreme happens, it’s simply the default to allow just about anything new until it proves a significant issue.

kadoban 5y ago
> yet one recently killed a friend Very sorry to hear that, that's horrible. > They are more dangerous than Tesla summon both in deaths per year and deaths per mile I don't think deaths per year is that compelling as a metric for this. Teslas are becoming more common, so it's going to get worse. Deaths per mile, where are you getting data for that? I mistrust anything from Tesla, they have a history of coloring the truth, at best. Anyway though, I fundamentally disagree with this entire thought process of "X is worse, therefore we can't fix Y". Let's just fix them all!