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Hear hear. Latinx, Filipinx - how dare the whites invent terminology to refer to disadvantaged minorities, using incorrect grammatical constructions or letters

Hear hear. Latinx, Filipinx - how dare the whites invent terminology to refer to disadvantaged minorities, using incorrect grammatical constructions or letters not even in the language of the people you refer to. This is white cultural imperialism, full stop. Right or left, I don't care where it comes from - I know it when I smell it.

rayiner 4y ago
This is an inherent feature of the emerging system where cultural norms flow top-down from college educated professionals (who are far whiter than the population as a whole). That’ll be true even on matters relating to minorities, because it’ll be college educated white people empowered to decide which non-white people get a platform.
- dijonman2 4y ago
  - rayiner 4y ago
    Progressivism is a manifestation of cultural principles that are closely associated with, and disproportionately manifested among, people of white European descent. There are liberals in every country, but the emphasis on say and sexual self expression and self determination is pretty distinct to countries founded by white Europeans. It’s similar, in that regard, to small government conservatism. There are conservatives everywhere. But the particular antagonism to government authority is uniquely a product of certain white European cultures.
- rendall 4y ago
  > cultural norms flow top-down from college educated professionals It doesn't flow anywhere except to other college educated professionals. These people attempt to tell rural, or the working-class, or immigrants what to say and how to behave, who then turn around and do something else like elect Trump.
tomp 4y ago
This has nothing to do with “white” and everything to do with regressive left. Here is Kamala Harris, an Indian-Black American, pushing “Latinx”: https://mobile.twitter.com/kamalaharris/status/1290733001320652801?lang=en https://mobile.twitter.com/kamalaharris/status/1290733001320...
- rayiner 4y ago
  You can’t overlook the role that white progressives play in selectively amplifying minority voices. I can’t get on CNN to give the “Bangladeshi guy take” on rising crime by saying stuff most Bangladeshi people agree with. I have to provide a Bangladeshi perspective that is appealing to the white progressives that make the decisions at CNN. There’s a deep synergy here that exploits the fact that most Americans have limited insight into what minorities think, but generally want to be supportive. White progressives can amplify their apparent mandate by selectively platforming progressive minorities to speak on behalf of those groups. Those progressive minorities, meanwhile, can wield the outsize influence of progressive whites over the media and institutions against other members of their own group. That’s how “Latinx” happens. Progressive Latinos by themselves have no power to influence what the general public calls Latinos. But if they get Elizabeth Warren to say it, they can turn it from a “progressive Latino” issue into a “Latino” issue and lots of well meaning people will go along to be supportive of Latinos. Kamala Harris is a great example. She was polling in the single digits among Black people (https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/04/kamala-harris-black-voters-2020-075651 https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/04/kamala-harris-black...). And I’ll tell you that most desis are closer to Tulsi Gabbard than Harris. Including the Russia stuff—given India’s long-standing affinity with Russia. She’s not Vice President because she’s the one people in those groups would pick. She’s Vice President because of all the white Act Blue donors I know who are thrilled to have a Black-Indian Vice President who just happens to think the way they do.
  - screye 4y ago
    Desi here, like Tulsi more than Kamala. I'd say Kamala is more disliked than the average white person too, because she panders so incompetently. I have not heard great things about Pramila Jayapal either.
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rmbyrro 4y ago
These people remind me of crusaders a thousand years ago, fighting the "infidels" all over. In fact, the whole body of thought governing them reminds me too much of the Latin Church. I have no words to express how I detest the kind of thinking behind them.
- donkeybeer 4y ago
  How many people have these people killed and how many wars have they started in the name of inclusivity?
  - season2episode3 4y ago
    It's hard to tell tone from text, but I'm going to assume you're not being facetious here... I'm pretty sure the answer is 0.
  - rmbyrro 4y ago
    They wage numerous wars, but the playing field is not full of swords and shields, but reputation destruction, intimidation, doxing, canceling, etc. The digital and public life is so important for many people today that, if you eliminate them there, it's like killing a good chunk of their lives. These people wage crusades against individual reputations and public/digital lives. Just because they think differently.
    - shadowgovt 4y ago
      So like killing except for all the "not killing." So not like killing at all. It is, however, a bit like building an orthodoxy. Which the group formerly in position to build orthodoxy is surprised to learn is an uncomfortable process.
      - rmbyrro 4y ago
        My reading is the only thing preventing a considerable portion of them from killing is law enforcement, and the fact that most societies has evolved past supporting violence. You have to observe that deadly violence was normalized in the past. It was even entertainment in Rome. Hence, the Colloseum. Externally, it's evolved, but internally the ideolog is quite similar. Some of the similarities are: - divides men and women - interferes and intends to control families - demonizes people that are useful to society and accumulate wealth
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dsco 4y ago
Why would you use the word filipinx when there’s already the gender neutral word Filipino? Also doesn’t filipinx exclude Filipinos outside of the American diaspora? Then what do you call Filipinos outside of that geographical area? See, you’re digging your own semantic hole with all this political correctness.

rayiner 4y ago

This is an inherent feature of the emerging system where cultural norms flow top-down from college educated professionals (who are far whiter than the population as a whole). That’ll be true even on matters relating to minorities, because it’ll be college educated white people empowered to decide which non-white people get a platform.

dijonman2 4y ago
- rayiner 4y ago
  Progressivism is a manifestation of cultural principles that are closely associated with, and disproportionately manifested among, people of white European descent. There are liberals in every country, but the emphasis on say and sexual self expression and self determination is pretty distinct to countries founded by white Europeans. It’s similar, in that regard, to small government conservatism. There are conservatives everywhere. But the particular antagonism to government authority is uniquely a product of certain white European cultures.
rendall 4y ago
> cultural norms flow top-down from college educated professionals It doesn't flow anywhere except to other college educated professionals. These people attempt to tell rural, or the working-class, or immigrants what to say and how to behave, who then turn around and do something else like elect Trump.

tomp 4y ago

This has nothing to do with “white” and everything to do with regressive left. Here is Kamala Harris, an Indian-Black American, pushing “Latinx”: https://mobile.twitter.com/kamalaharris/status/1290733001320652801?lang=en https://mobile.twitter.com/kamalaharris/status/1290733001320...

rayiner 4y ago
You can’t overlook the role that white progressives play in selectively amplifying minority voices. I can’t get on CNN to give the “Bangladeshi guy take” on rising crime by saying stuff most Bangladeshi people agree with. I have to provide a Bangladeshi perspective that is appealing to the white progressives that make the decisions at CNN. There’s a deep synergy here that exploits the fact that most Americans have limited insight into what minorities think, but generally want to be supportive. White progressives can amplify their apparent mandate by selectively platforming progressive minorities to speak on behalf of those groups. Those progressive minorities, meanwhile, can wield the outsize influence of progressive whites over the media and institutions against other members of their own group. That’s how “Latinx” happens. Progressive Latinos by themselves have no power to influence what the general public calls Latinos. But if they get Elizabeth Warren to say it, they can turn it from a “progressive Latino” issue into a “Latino” issue and lots of well meaning people will go along to be supportive of Latinos. Kamala Harris is a great example. She was polling in the single digits among Black people (https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/04/kamala-harris-black-voters-2020-075651 https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/04/kamala-harris-black...). And I’ll tell you that most desis are closer to Tulsi Gabbard than Harris. Including the Russia stuff—given India’s long-standing affinity with Russia. She’s not Vice President because she’s the one people in those groups would pick. She’s Vice President because of all the white Act Blue donors I know who are thrilled to have a Black-Indian Vice President who just happens to think the way they do.
- screye 4y ago
  Desi here, like Tulsi more than Kamala. I'd say Kamala is more disliked than the average white person too, because she panders so incompetently. I have not heard great things about Pramila Jayapal either.

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rmbyrro 4y ago

These people remind me of crusaders a thousand years ago, fighting the "infidels" all over. In fact, the whole body of thought governing them reminds me too much of the Latin Church. I have no words to express how I detest the kind of thinking behind them.

donkeybeer 4y ago
How many people have these people killed and how many wars have they started in the name of inclusivity?
- season2episode3 4y ago
  It's hard to tell tone from text, but I'm going to assume you're not being facetious here... I'm pretty sure the answer is 0.
- rmbyrro 4y ago
  They wage numerous wars, but the playing field is not full of swords and shields, but reputation destruction, intimidation, doxing, canceling, etc. The digital and public life is so important for many people today that, if you eliminate them there, it's like killing a good chunk of their lives. These people wage crusades against individual reputations and public/digital lives. Just because they think differently.
  - shadowgovt 4y ago
    So like killing except for all the "not killing." So not like killing at all. It is, however, a bit like building an orthodoxy. Which the group formerly in position to build orthodoxy is surprised to learn is an uncomfortable process.
    - rmbyrro 4y ago
      My reading is the only thing preventing a considerable portion of them from killing is law enforcement, and the fact that most societies has evolved past supporting violence. You have to observe that deadly violence was normalized in the past. It was even entertainment in Rome. Hence, the Colloseum. Externally, it's evolved, but internally the ideolog is quite similar. Some of the similarities are: - divides men and women - interferes and intends to control families - demonizes people that are useful to society and accumulate wealth

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dsco 4y ago

Why would you use the word filipinx when there’s already the gender neutral word Filipino? Also doesn’t filipinx exclude Filipinos outside of the American diaspora? Then what do you call Filipinos outside of that geographical area? See, you’re digging your own semantic hole with all this political correctness.