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For anyone reading this, I volunteer. My moderation level would be based on words that were considered bad in the year 2005. I won’t have to do much work and y

For anyone reading this, I volunteer. My moderation level would be based on words that were considered bad in the year 2005. I won’t have to do much work and you still get to say that you have someone that’s doing the job. Win-win.

humanistbot 5y ago
Ah, the culture war version of the famous Douglas Adams quote about technology: "1. Anything that is in the world when you’re born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. 2. Anything that's invented between when you’re fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it. 3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things."
- duxup 5y ago
  What is funny to me is that for me 2 and 3 are swapped. 2 really was just me being unimpressed generally. For some reason I didn't think much of the ipad... Now I'm old and everything is amazing.
- Auracle 5y ago
  The difference is that I live in the middle of the country, so I'm basically living in the past but can see the future screaming my way via the internet.
slg 5y ago
I wonder what your age is in comparison to your chosen ideal of 2005. As I am getting older it is easier to see the patterns in all this. Most people just want the entire world frozen from the time they were young. That includes everything from the cast of SNL to acceptable language. I have seen enough decades of people complaining about policing language to know that we survived multiple waves of this before 2005 and we will survive all the waves that came and will come after. I would bet that 20 years from now, Gen Z will be waxing nostalgic about the language of today while Gen Alpha and beyond will be pushing for more change. It is just the way language evolves.
- SpicyLemonZest 5y ago
  I dunno, man. You're right that the term "mainboard" isn't going to kill us, and I wouldn't advise anyone to make this their main crusade in life. But that's a pretty high standard of dismissiveness and I've never seen anyone apply it to language changes that genuinely bug them. If we discovered that Google employees call codebases which have a lot of bugs "gay", and people got angry about it, would you tell them that it's not a big deal because Google has just developed the language a bit?
  - lokar 5y ago
    Be careful with the word crusade
  - slg 5y ago
    >But that's a pretty high standard of dismissiveness and I've never seen anyone apply it to language changes that genuinely bug them. I am applying that dismissiveness to all objections equally based off their motivation. I don't agree with the argument on either side of the "motherboard/mainboard" debate. But I can emphasize with the motivation of the side pushing for "mainboard" because it is the same as your argument about misusing "gay" being unnaceptable. I disagree with their specific objection but I understand the motivation. I don't understand the side pushing for "motherboard" because the heart of the objection seems to be "things were better when I was young". Presented with those two options, why not side with the people who you would side with if we were arguing over a different word such as "gay"?
    - SpicyLemonZest 5y ago
      It's true that things were different when we were young, but that's true of any new phenomenon and it's not the heart of the objection. If young people these days want to avoid saying "wonderful", or use women by default in hypothetical scenarios, or go around checking their pulse while they say "sheeeeesh", I have no real concerns about those things and I think most people on team "motherboard" would agree. The reason I push against "mainboard" is, I think, the analogous concern. While it's possible in principle to type out the letters "mainboard" without meaning anything by it, in practice the people who say it are motivated by a package of ideas about gender which I think are bad and would be harmful for society if they were more broadly adopted. To say "mainboard" would make me appear to be endorsing those ideas.

humanistbot 5y ago

Ah, the culture war version of the famous Douglas Adams quote about technology: "1. Anything that is in the world when you’re born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. 2. Anything that's invented between when you’re fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it. 3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things."

duxup 5y ago
What is funny to me is that for me 2 and 3 are swapped. 2 really was just me being unimpressed generally. For some reason I didn't think much of the ipad... Now I'm old and everything is amazing.
Auracle 5y ago
The difference is that I live in the middle of the country, so I'm basically living in the past but can see the future screaming my way via the internet.

slg 5y ago

I wonder what your age is in comparison to your chosen ideal of 2005. As I am getting older it is easier to see the patterns in all this. Most people just want the entire world frozen from the time they were young. That includes everything from the cast of SNL to acceptable language. I have seen enough decades of people complaining about policing language to know that we survived multiple waves of this before 2005 and we will survive all the waves that came and will come after. I would bet that 20 years from now, Gen Z will be waxing nostalgic about the language of today while Gen Alpha and beyond will be pushing for more change. It is just the way language evolves.

SpicyLemonZest 5y ago
I dunno, man. You're right that the term "mainboard" isn't going to kill us, and I wouldn't advise anyone to make this their main crusade in life. But that's a pretty high standard of dismissiveness and I've never seen anyone apply it to language changes that genuinely bug them. If we discovered that Google employees call codebases which have a lot of bugs "gay", and people got angry about it, would you tell them that it's not a big deal because Google has just developed the language a bit?
- lokar 5y ago
  Be careful with the word crusade
- slg 5y ago
  >But that's a pretty high standard of dismissiveness and I've never seen anyone apply it to language changes that genuinely bug them. I am applying that dismissiveness to all objections equally based off their motivation. I don't agree with the argument on either side of the "motherboard/mainboard" debate. But I can emphasize with the motivation of the side pushing for "mainboard" because it is the same as your argument about misusing "gay" being unnaceptable. I disagree with their specific objection but I understand the motivation. I don't understand the side pushing for "motherboard" because the heart of the objection seems to be "things were better when I was young". Presented with those two options, why not side with the people who you would side with if we were arguing over a different word such as "gay"?
  - SpicyLemonZest 5y ago
    It's true that things were different when we were young, but that's true of any new phenomenon and it's not the heart of the objection. If young people these days want to avoid saying "wonderful", or use women by default in hypothetical scenarios, or go around checking their pulse while they say "sheeeeesh", I have no real concerns about those things and I think most people on team "motherboard" would agree. The reason I push against "mainboard" is, I think, the analogous concern. While it's possible in principle to type out the letters "mainboard" without meaning anything by it, in practice the people who say it are motivated by a package of ideas about gender which I think are bad and would be harmful for society if they were more broadly adopted. To say "mainboard" would make me appear to be endorsing those ideas.