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It makes me sad that we (the United States) have entirely lost our e pluribus unum. In some quarters, folks consider the mere idea to be communism. Of course th

by pohl 5y ago

It makes me sad that we (the United States) have entirely lost our e pluribus unum. In some quarters, folks consider the mere idea to be communism. Of course they're not exactly deep thinkers, those folks, but that's the dominant POV in the deep red state in which I live.

StevePerkins 5y ago
In the other quarters, I'm not sure that the e pluribus unum melting pot concept is any less obsolete. All of our various factions seem headed in the direction of fracture and balkanization, we just vary on the details.
smackeyacky 5y ago
Externally, America had never looked as united as America has liked to project. Segregation, Jim Crow laws, "No Irish, no Italians" signs in windows, rife religious sectarianism and a law enforcement system with a long history of directed violence. It probably seems like America is getting divided more starkly, but to outsiders its just more of the same from a country that had a civil war over slavery. It waxes and wanes but it never really goes away.
- jimbokun 5y ago
  It was meant as a goal to strive for, not an end already achieved.
jimbokun 5y ago
> In some quarters, folks consider the mere idea to be communism. And in other quarters, they believe we have permanent, irreconcilable differences based on race, sex, and sexuality making the whole idea of "out of many, one" unthinkable.
- pohl 5y ago
  At bare minimum, one would think we could all agree that it's a good thing to honestly teach our nation's actual history — rather than trying to ban teaching it so that we can pretend that systemic racism is not and never was a thing.
dbbr 5y ago
I would argue that, to this day, in most quarters, e pluribus unum is deeply engraved. It’s presence can be considered a true test of one’s metal. Any newly minted ethos just won’t do.
- notpachet 5y ago
  > newly minted eth Cryptocurrencies make their inevitable appearance in the thread! :]

by pohl 5y ago

StevePerkins 5y ago

In the other quarters, I'm not sure that the e pluribus unum melting pot concept is any less obsolete. All of our various factions seem headed in the direction of fracture and balkanization, we just vary on the details.

smackeyacky 5y ago

Externally, America had never looked as united as America has liked to project. Segregation, Jim Crow laws, "No Irish, no Italians" signs in windows, rife religious sectarianism and a law enforcement system with a long history of directed violence. It probably seems like America is getting divided more starkly, but to outsiders its just more of the same from a country that had a civil war over slavery. It waxes and wanes but it never really goes away.

jimbokun 5y ago
It was meant as a goal to strive for, not an end already achieved.

jimbokun 5y ago

> In some quarters, folks consider the mere idea to be communism. And in other quarters, they believe we have permanent, irreconcilable differences based on race, sex, and sexuality making the whole idea of "out of many, one" unthinkable.

pohl 5y ago
At bare minimum, one would think we could all agree that it's a good thing to honestly teach our nation's actual history — rather than trying to ban teaching it so that we can pretend that systemic racism is not and never was a thing.

dbbr 5y ago

I would argue that, to this day, in most quarters, e pluribus unum is deeply engraved. It’s presence can be considered a true test of one’s metal. Any newly minted ethos just won’t do.

notpachet 5y ago
> newly minted eth Cryptocurrencies make their inevitable appearance in the thread! :]