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Absolutely, Netflix would be 1000 times better if they just let me sort, filter and find content based on concrete metadata. Instead, I'm forced to rely on thei

by yosito 5y ago

Absolutely, Netflix would be 1000 times better if they just let me sort, filter and find content based on concrete metadata. Instead, I'm forced to rely on their recommendation algorithms that purport to know what I want to watch, but for some reason keep recommending low quality content in languages I'm just not interested in. I'd be happy if I could just filter Netflix to only show me content with original audio in languages I speak. The few shows I'm interested in watching with subtitles or dubbed audio are things I can search for on a case by base basis. And don't get me started on Netflix's non-intuitive categories which seem more intent on forcing me to view ideologically motivated content than on helping me to find content in a category I'm interested in. I don't want to search for "Christian Films with Family Values" nor do I want to watch "Films With Black Female Leads". Nothing wrong with those types of films, but I'm searching by "Action", "Romance", "Comedy", "Sci-Fi" etc.

pojzon 5y ago
I can assume Netflix does not have this kind of browsing simply due to amount of content they have. Offering of Netflix is extremely poor if you crop out all the duplicate shows popping on your feed. Ive decided to drop Netflix simply because: - new interesting shows are popping up so rarely, there is no point to pay the monthly sub - there is too much political agenda sold even in children shows (Kids really dont need this kind of crap)
- roody15 5y ago
  "there is too much political agenda sold even in children shows" Yes sadly this has become much more prominent in the last couple of years. It has blatant political propaganda inserted into all of their original content that is clearly forced and hurts the quality of the programming.
  - otterley 5y ago
    Can you provide some examples of this, and how it's impacting children in some sort of harmful way?
    - cdelsolar 5y ago
      (Spoiler: no, they can't)
      - petefromnorth 5y ago
        It's very real. I have friends in the industry working on a Netflix series, and the amount of political correctness being forced on them from the Netflix side is insane. I cannot give a specific example due to exposing which show this may be on, but if the stories I hear or true, the Netflix staff must do a lot of Yoga cause the stuff they force to change is a stretch. The artists I know on the show went from being excited, to just there for a paycheck after certain fruits were deemed racist around black characters (not watermelons), and a LGBT plotline was forced into a childrens show just because.
        otterley 5y ago
        The info you've supplied doesn't support your premise. You say "it's very real," but you admit you cannot cite a single example, and your only evidence is some vague hearsay.
        o_1 5y ago
        Hearsay is this a courtroom? I'll cite an example : the entire front page of Netflix is an agenda. When they removed ratings I knew it was going downhill.
        petefromnorth 5y ago
        I can, but I am choosing not to as to preserve privacy. Just one data point, you are welcome to not believe it.
        deleted 5y ago
        [deleted]
    - roody15 5y ago
      I didn't suggest it was "hurting" children however I do believe it hurts the overall quality of the programming. One example that probably flirts the line with hurting children was Netflix's Cuties. "Netflix is also the streaming service behind "Cuties," a wildly controversial French film that tells the coming-of-age story of an 11-year-old girl as she discovers her maturing self, all while looking for acceptance in her religious family and group of young dancers she hopes to befriend" If you want examples of pardon the term but I guess "woke" programming, this list is pretty extensive on Netflix. You can do a quick google search yourself to see lots of examples here. My personal take (as someone who is left leaning) is when these messages are bombarded into programming it often feels forced.. even perhaps propagandized. This level of inauthenticity hurts the overall artistic and entertainment value of the programming (just my two cents).
  - 0xcafecafe 5y ago
    Can you please provide examples of said propaganda in NFLX programming? Genuinely curious.
    - xedrac 5y ago
      See my comment above about She-Ra.
      - tomnipotent 5y ago
        So not having only heterosexual relationships means that the content is propaganda?
        DocTomoe 5y ago
        When they go to the polar opposite - only homosexual relationships - then it might be.
        splatzone 5y ago
        I haven’t seen She-Ra, is it only gay relationships? I’m curious if you think a show with only straight relationships is propagandistic too (ie most TV ever made)
        Fomite 5y ago
        It isn't. But in a show called "She-Ra and the Princesses of Power", you're going to have a lot of lesbian relationships if the cast ends up mostly paired. But there's a mix of relationships.
  - orangepurple 5y ago
    This is designed to shift the overton window. I'm not sure who benefits from it or why it's being rammed through though.
  - cguess 5y ago
    You never watched Sesame Street did you? They've been explaining social issues to kids since the 1960's. Of course Mr. Rodger's first episode was explaining the Vietnam War. Kids shows are and have always been political if they're not pure fantasy (even then...)
- princevegeta89 5y ago
  Exactly. A lot of new content made seems to be really poor to me. And oh, did I mention content that keeps making frequent trips in and out of Netflix? (Movies like The Terminator franchise, Troy etc.) So cringe I just want to cancel it after this month.
- ODILON_SATER 5y ago
  `- there is too much political agenda sold even in children shows (Kids really dont need this kind of crap)` This is what pushing me over the edge. I have both Netflix and Amazon prime subscriptions. I have thought several times to drop one. The only reason I still have Netflix is because my wife and kids watch their shows. But I have had a hard time finding good shows because everything is political, and I hate when the trailer deceives me and they just inject pure political propaganda in the middle of the show. Suddenly I found myself reading about Synology NAS and how to set up Plex on it. I am very close to buy a Synology NAS, and to boot I can get host my own VPN server, seems like a good idea.
  - otterley 5y ago
    Can you give some examples of shows, scenes, or dialogue that you find particularly objectionable, and why?
    - ODILON_SATER 5y ago
      An example is the complete unnecessary cast of Caroline Henderson (a black woman) to the series "Vikings: Valhalla". I understand it is a fictional story, but these are Vikings for pete's sake. The only reason they cast her was evidently for diversity reasons. It is a distraction to the story, I immediately turned off. Though we know that not all vikings had blonde hair, some may be even a bit more dark skinned, but definitely not black. And it is more laughable because she's a character that yields some power in the Viking society. Laughable and a distraction to the story. Another example of a series that, instead of focusing on its central theme, ends up injecting politically-motivated content is the series "High Score". Listen, I understand that a small portion of early video game enthusiasts care about those things, but for a series that has a purpose to tell the relevant stories about creation and development of video games in the 80s and 90s, you just can't help but to think that they felt that they needed to inject some LGBT content in it such as in episode 3 on the story about the 1st LGBT RPG game GayBlade. They end up leaving more relevant content on the table to shoehorn these themes into the series. Not everything needs to be "gay", or having a "gay angle".
    - andrew_ 5y ago
- AlexandrB 5y ago
  > - there is too much political agenda sold even in children shows (Kids really dont need this kind of crap) What do you mean by "political agenda"? Like open advocacy for certain policy position or political parties? Or just stuff like "gay people exist and should be treated with respect"? Also, when I was a kid I would listen to conservative talk radio all the time. It's the only thing my dad would listen to while driving. And I don't think it was corrupting or traumatizing or anything.
  - ipaddr 5y ago
    Michelle Obama programming. Me too related programming. Forced lgt story lines in unrelated programming. Everything you experienced in your life can and does corrupt you.
    - samstave 5y ago
      This is why Disney is an abomination. Also, if you look at the content tropes constantly used, and especially used in much of the netflix library: --- - Lots of satan/evil - The constant CIA/NSA/FBI/Cop/Assassin Badass Porn, with the invariable singular hacker support guy on the squad that can get into any system and has a 3D blueprint with wireframe models of every building - The hero cop constantly going against the bureaucratic system that holding back his personal justice If you cant see the constant hero worship of rogue cops/cia agent/killer/evil etc in literally 90% of hollywood content puts a subconscious desire in the impressionable young minds of males to acquiesce to a violent society where they can see themselves as the fictitious bad-ass action person. Etc... The entire hollywood movie-narrative is an incestuous cess-pool-adrenochrome--eating-gay-frog-orgy. (Tongue in cheek alex jones reference, relax)
    - notpachet 5y ago
      Occasionally it redeems you.
    - tomnipotent 5y ago
      > Forced lgt So you agree then that hetero relationships in children's media is also a political agenda?
- e40 5y ago
  BS. There is a very high correlation between imdb rating and if I enjoy something. Give me a sort by that and I will be very happy.
  - samstave 5y ago
    https://www.imdb.com/list/ls055592025/ https://www.imdb.com/list/ls055592025/
chx 5y ago
I actually want to search for "action series with female leads" but I have no idea how to do it with Netflix nor does Netflix carry most of them. Instead, I "search" on Reddit and pirate them. https://www.reddit.com/r/ifyoulikeblank/comments/rdpmp9/tv_iil_cursed_winx_warrior_nun_old_guard_enola/ho6au97/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ifyoulikeblank/comments/rdpmp9/tv_i...
ryandrake 5y ago
Yes! I recently went on a little trip and the AirBnB host had Netflix. This is the first time I’ve ever used Netflix. And oh my god how do people find anything with it?? I didn’t realize that you could scroll horizontally for about a day. And the categories are… useless. +1 for traditional “action” categories. And the content was mostly straight to DVD B-movies with a few “80s oldies.” I did manage to watch the new Blade Runner there so ok they did have something I could recognize. And the TV shows were awful. Nothing I’ve never heard of. I couldn’t even find Seinfeld reruns or something normal. And after watching a random selection of them I am so glad we never wasted our money on the service. My wife picked a show (neither of us ever heard of) apparently about a narcissist woman who moves to Paris for work and it was just a low budget list of every “arrogant American visits France” trope and stereotype ever invented. The experience was very much like visiting my devout Christian friend who has a huge bookshelf full of religious movies I’ve never heard of, and nothing “mainstream popular”. Like when you turn on Netflix you enter an alternate universe where nobody’s ever heard of The Wrath of Khan, The Godfather or Pulp Fiction.
- chucksmash 5y ago
  > I couldn’t even find Seinfeld reruns Guess it depends on what you mean by "recently" and maybe it depends on region as well, but Seinfeld is on Netflix!
- yardie 5y ago
  Modern videostreaming is such a poison pill. Where the rights come and go arbitrarily. So Netflix decided they were going to do their own content because they couldn't rely on production studios. Since they don't have to pay royalties on their own content the streaming apps intentionally push the homegrown movies and obscure the slightly better 3rd party content. And it was not always like this. In their early streaming days the AAA titles (The Godfather, The Matrix, etc) were front and center. The recommendations engine was actually useful. And there were few competitors so AAA titles would stay on their platform for years. I've been using their service since 00s when they were shipping DVDs. I barely recognize the same company even though they are wildly successful.
- 101011 5y ago
samstave 5y ago
I have a very good friend who is a long time engineer at netflix, this is his quote: "They keep the search and browse capability so crappy in order to mask the true size of the content library"
- infiniteL0Op 5y ago

by yosito 5y ago

pojzon 5y ago

I can assume Netflix does not have this kind of browsing simply due to amount of content they have. Offering of Netflix is extremely poor if you crop out all the duplicate shows popping on your feed. Ive decided to drop Netflix simply because: - new interesting shows are popping up so rarely, there is no point to pay the monthly sub - there is too much political agenda sold even in children shows (Kids really dont need this kind of crap)

roody15 5y ago
"there is too much political agenda sold even in children shows" Yes sadly this has become much more prominent in the last couple of years. It has blatant political propaganda inserted into all of their original content that is clearly forced and hurts the quality of the programming.
- otterley 5y ago
  Can you provide some examples of this, and how it's impacting children in some sort of harmful way?
  - cdelsolar 5y ago
    (Spoiler: no, they can't)
    - petefromnorth 5y ago
      It's very real. I have friends in the industry working on a Netflix series, and the amount of political correctness being forced on them from the Netflix side is insane. I cannot give a specific example due to exposing which show this may be on, but if the stories I hear or true, the Netflix staff must do a lot of Yoga cause the stuff they force to change is a stretch. The artists I know on the show went from being excited, to just there for a paycheck after certain fruits were deemed racist around black characters (not watermelons), and a LGBT plotline was forced into a childrens show just because.
      - otterley 5y ago
        The info you've supplied doesn't support your premise. You say "it's very real," but you admit you cannot cite a single example, and your only evidence is some vague hearsay.
        o_1 5y ago
        Hearsay is this a courtroom? I'll cite an example : the entire front page of Netflix is an agenda. When they removed ratings I knew it was going downhill.
        petefromnorth 5y ago
        I can, but I am choosing not to as to preserve privacy. Just one data point, you are welcome to not believe it.
      - deleted 5y ago
        [deleted]
  - roody15 5y ago
    I didn't suggest it was "hurting" children however I do believe it hurts the overall quality of the programming. One example that probably flirts the line with hurting children was Netflix's Cuties. "Netflix is also the streaming service behind "Cuties," a wildly controversial French film that tells the coming-of-age story of an 11-year-old girl as she discovers her maturing self, all while looking for acceptance in her religious family and group of young dancers she hopes to befriend" If you want examples of pardon the term but I guess "woke" programming, this list is pretty extensive on Netflix. You can do a quick google search yourself to see lots of examples here. My personal take (as someone who is left leaning) is when these messages are bombarded into programming it often feels forced.. even perhaps propagandized. This level of inauthenticity hurts the overall artistic and entertainment value of the programming (just my two cents).
- 0xcafecafe 5y ago
  Can you please provide examples of said propaganda in NFLX programming? Genuinely curious.
  - xedrac 5y ago
    See my comment above about She-Ra.
    - tomnipotent 5y ago
      So not having only heterosexual relationships means that the content is propaganda?
      - DocTomoe 5y ago
        When they go to the polar opposite - only homosexual relationships - then it might be.
        splatzone 5y ago
        I haven’t seen She-Ra, is it only gay relationships? I’m curious if you think a show with only straight relationships is propagandistic too (ie most TV ever made)
        Fomite 5y ago
        It isn't. But in a show called "She-Ra and the Princesses of Power", you're going to have a lot of lesbian relationships if the cast ends up mostly paired. But there's a mix of relationships.
- orangepurple 5y ago
  This is designed to shift the overton window. I'm not sure who benefits from it or why it's being rammed through though.
- cguess 5y ago
  You never watched Sesame Street did you? They've been explaining social issues to kids since the 1960's. Of course Mr. Rodger's first episode was explaining the Vietnam War. Kids shows are and have always been political if they're not pure fantasy (even then...)
princevegeta89 5y ago
Exactly. A lot of new content made seems to be really poor to me. And oh, did I mention content that keeps making frequent trips in and out of Netflix? (Movies like The Terminator franchise, Troy etc.) So cringe I just want to cancel it after this month.
ODILON_SATER 5y ago
`- there is too much political agenda sold even in children shows (Kids really dont need this kind of crap)` This is what pushing me over the edge. I have both Netflix and Amazon prime subscriptions. I have thought several times to drop one. The only reason I still have Netflix is because my wife and kids watch their shows. But I have had a hard time finding good shows because everything is political, and I hate when the trailer deceives me and they just inject pure political propaganda in the middle of the show. Suddenly I found myself reading about Synology NAS and how to set up Plex on it. I am very close to buy a Synology NAS, and to boot I can get host my own VPN server, seems like a good idea.
- otterley 5y ago
  Can you give some examples of shows, scenes, or dialogue that you find particularly objectionable, and why?
  - ODILON_SATER 5y ago
    An example is the complete unnecessary cast of Caroline Henderson (a black woman) to the series "Vikings: Valhalla". I understand it is a fictional story, but these are Vikings for pete's sake. The only reason they cast her was evidently for diversity reasons. It is a distraction to the story, I immediately turned off. Though we know that not all vikings had blonde hair, some may be even a bit more dark skinned, but definitely not black. And it is more laughable because she's a character that yields some power in the Viking society. Laughable and a distraction to the story. Another example of a series that, instead of focusing on its central theme, ends up injecting politically-motivated content is the series "High Score". Listen, I understand that a small portion of early video game enthusiasts care about those things, but for a series that has a purpose to tell the relevant stories about creation and development of video games in the 80s and 90s, you just can't help but to think that they felt that they needed to inject some LGBT content in it such as in episode 3 on the story about the 1st LGBT RPG game GayBlade. They end up leaving more relevant content on the table to shoehorn these themes into the series. Not everything needs to be "gay", or having a "gay angle".
  - andrew_ 5y ago
AlexandrB 5y ago
> - there is too much political agenda sold even in children shows (Kids really dont need this kind of crap) What do you mean by "political agenda"? Like open advocacy for certain policy position or political parties? Or just stuff like "gay people exist and should be treated with respect"? Also, when I was a kid I would listen to conservative talk radio all the time. It's the only thing my dad would listen to while driving. And I don't think it was corrupting or traumatizing or anything.
- ipaddr 5y ago
  Michelle Obama programming. Me too related programming. Forced lgt story lines in unrelated programming. Everything you experienced in your life can and does corrupt you.
  - samstave 5y ago
    This is why Disney is an abomination. Also, if you look at the content tropes constantly used, and especially used in much of the netflix library: --- - Lots of satan/evil - The constant CIA/NSA/FBI/Cop/Assassin Badass Porn, with the invariable singular hacker support guy on the squad that can get into any system and has a 3D blueprint with wireframe models of every building - The hero cop constantly going against the bureaucratic system that holding back his personal justice If you cant see the constant hero worship of rogue cops/cia agent/killer/evil etc in literally 90% of hollywood content puts a subconscious desire in the impressionable young minds of males to acquiesce to a violent society where they can see themselves as the fictitious bad-ass action person. Etc... The entire hollywood movie-narrative is an incestuous cess-pool-adrenochrome--eating-gay-frog-orgy. (Tongue in cheek alex jones reference, relax)
  - notpachet 5y ago
    Occasionally it redeems you.
  - tomnipotent 5y ago
    > Forced lgt So you agree then that hetero relationships in children's media is also a political agenda?
e40 5y ago
BS. There is a very high correlation between imdb rating and if I enjoy something. Give me a sort by that and I will be very happy.
- samstave 5y ago
  https://www.imdb.com/list/ls055592025/ https://www.imdb.com/list/ls055592025/

chx 5y ago

I actually want to search for "action series with female leads" but I have no idea how to do it with Netflix nor does Netflix carry most of them. Instead, I "search" on Reddit and pirate them. https://www.reddit.com/r/ifyoulikeblank/comments/rdpmp9/tv_iil_cursed_winx_warrior_nun_old_guard_enola/ho6au97/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ifyoulikeblank/comments/rdpmp9/tv_i...

ryandrake 5y ago

Yes! I recently went on a little trip and the AirBnB host had Netflix. This is the first time I’ve ever used Netflix. And oh my god how do people find anything with it?? I didn’t realize that you could scroll horizontally for about a day. And the categories are… useless. +1 for traditional “action” categories. And the content was mostly straight to DVD B-movies with a few “80s oldies.” I did manage to watch the new Blade Runner there so ok they did have something I could recognize. And the TV shows were awful. Nothing I’ve never heard of. I couldn’t even find Seinfeld reruns or something normal. And after watching a random selection of them I am so glad we never wasted our money on the service. My wife picked a show (neither of us ever heard of) apparently about a narcissist woman who moves to Paris for work and it was just a low budget list of every “arrogant American visits France” trope and stereotype ever invented. The experience was very much like visiting my devout Christian friend who has a huge bookshelf full of religious movies I’ve never heard of, and nothing “mainstream popular”. Like when you turn on Netflix you enter an alternate universe where nobody’s ever heard of The Wrath of Khan, The Godfather or Pulp Fiction.

chucksmash 5y ago
> I couldn’t even find Seinfeld reruns Guess it depends on what you mean by "recently" and maybe it depends on region as well, but Seinfeld is on Netflix!
yardie 5y ago
Modern videostreaming is such a poison pill. Where the rights come and go arbitrarily. So Netflix decided they were going to do their own content because they couldn't rely on production studios. Since they don't have to pay royalties on their own content the streaming apps intentionally push the homegrown movies and obscure the slightly better 3rd party content. And it was not always like this. In their early streaming days the AAA titles (The Godfather, The Matrix, etc) were front and center. The recommendations engine was actually useful. And there were few competitors so AAA titles would stay on their platform for years. I've been using their service since 00s when they were shipping DVDs. I barely recognize the same company even though they are wildly successful.
101011 5y ago

samstave 5y ago

I have a very good friend who is a long time engineer at netflix, this is his quote: "They keep the search and browse capability so crappy in order to mask the true size of the content library"

infiniteL0Op 5y ago