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This has been my experience as well along both sides of the axis. If you're not "Lets Go Brandon" or whatever the equivalent is on the left, you usually are rea

This has been my experience as well along both sides of the axis. If you're not "Lets Go Brandon" or whatever the equivalent is on the left, you usually are reasonable and have valid opinions. Even more so, we usually share the same ideals just have different ways of getting there. There isn't huge division out there. Just two camps of dicks with most of us in the middle.

bsenftner 4y ago
- mbg721 4y ago
  The entire reason "Let's Go Brandon" became a thing was that the incident validated conservative complaints about big media bias. It was "Were you saying 'Boo', or 'Boo-urns'??" in real life.
  - monocasa 4y ago
    Sort of. AFAICT, it had more to do with the fact that you can't drop knowingly allow f-bombs on broadcast TV without having your license taken away, so sometimes reporters will pretend they misheard something so they don't have to cut away during live interviews.
    - jaywalk 4y ago
      Nah, the profanity rules are substantially relaxed for live broadcasts these days. "Fleeting expletives" will not trigger a fine. Indeed, just watch a Sunday afternoon NFL game and you're guaranteed to hear some naughty words. Primetime games generally use a delay so the audio can be dumped, but the afternoon games don't bother with it even though they're on broadcast TV as well.
      - monocasa 4y ago
        It wasn't fleeting, the crowd was chanting it during the whole interview. The production staff almost certainly went out of their way to include it in fact.
        jaywalk 4y ago
        It may not have been fleeting by the dictionary definition of the word, but it definitely was by the way the rules are applied. I've worked in the broadcast industry and have had to deal directly with this subject, so I'm not just spouting nonsense here.
        monocasa 4y ago
        I've also worked in the broadcast industry; you are just spouting nonsense. You get fined for knowingly allowing several minute long continuous chants like that, and can get your license taken away. It wasn't fleeting in either the dictionary nor the regulatory sense.
        jaywalk 4y ago
        Ok, show me the enforcement action that was taken against NBC in this case.
        monocasa 4y ago
        There wasn't one. Pretending to mishear the crowd is how you get out of it. That's literally my point.
        jaywalk 4y ago
        Oh yeah, the FCC would have smacked them but since the reporter "pretended to mishear the crowd" their plans were foiled! Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds? The reporter has literally zero control over what gets aired aside from the words coming out of her mouth. What she "pretended" to hear couldn't be less relevant.
- CuriouslyC 4y ago
- jaywalk 4y ago
- gameman144 4y ago
  Not that one should need to qualify statements on here, but I happen to also not be a Trump fan. To say that there is no "Let's Go Brandon" equivalent on the left, though, is just false: there are plenty of similar phrases on the left as well. Let me offer a few that pop up where I live: * ACAB * Defund/Abolish X * Black Lives Matter (as a political statement, that is; if anyone disagrees with this at a values level, then that's something different) * Drumpf / Cheeto / "Orange Man" These are also buzzwords which are used to quickly communicate group membership. Another method is to dehumanize the opposition, e.g. calling President Biden "sleepy Joe" or "senile", or calling Trump a "mentally deficient fascist". There's nothing wrong with not liking a political figure. There's nothing wrong with seeing tribal behavior and calling it out. If you can't even put yourself into your opponent's shoes long enough to see any such criticisms of your own tribe, though, you're willfully remaining ignorant of a whole world view.

bsenftner 4y ago

mbg721 4y ago
The entire reason "Let's Go Brandon" became a thing was that the incident validated conservative complaints about big media bias. It was "Were you saying 'Boo', or 'Boo-urns'??" in real life.
- monocasa 4y ago
  Sort of. AFAICT, it had more to do with the fact that you can't drop knowingly allow f-bombs on broadcast TV without having your license taken away, so sometimes reporters will pretend they misheard something so they don't have to cut away during live interviews.
  - jaywalk 4y ago
    Nah, the profanity rules are substantially relaxed for live broadcasts these days. "Fleeting expletives" will not trigger a fine. Indeed, just watch a Sunday afternoon NFL game and you're guaranteed to hear some naughty words. Primetime games generally use a delay so the audio can be dumped, but the afternoon games don't bother with it even though they're on broadcast TV as well.
    - monocasa 4y ago
      It wasn't fleeting, the crowd was chanting it during the whole interview. The production staff almost certainly went out of their way to include it in fact.
      - jaywalk 4y ago
        It may not have been fleeting by the dictionary definition of the word, but it definitely was by the way the rules are applied. I've worked in the broadcast industry and have had to deal directly with this subject, so I'm not just spouting nonsense here.
        monocasa 4y ago
        I've also worked in the broadcast industry; you are just spouting nonsense. You get fined for knowingly allowing several minute long continuous chants like that, and can get your license taken away. It wasn't fleeting in either the dictionary nor the regulatory sense.
        jaywalk 4y ago
        Ok, show me the enforcement action that was taken against NBC in this case.
        monocasa 4y ago
        There wasn't one. Pretending to mishear the crowd is how you get out of it. That's literally my point.
        jaywalk 4y ago
        Oh yeah, the FCC would have smacked them but since the reporter "pretended to mishear the crowd" their plans were foiled! Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds? The reporter has literally zero control over what gets aired aside from the words coming out of her mouth. What she "pretended" to hear couldn't be less relevant.
CuriouslyC 4y ago
jaywalk 4y ago
gameman144 4y ago
Not that one should need to qualify statements on here, but I happen to also not be a Trump fan. To say that there is no "Let's Go Brandon" equivalent on the left, though, is just false: there are plenty of similar phrases on the left as well. Let me offer a few that pop up where I live: * ACAB * Defund/Abolish X * Black Lives Matter (as a political statement, that is; if anyone disagrees with this at a values level, then that's something different) * Drumpf / Cheeto / "Orange Man" These are also buzzwords which are used to quickly communicate group membership. Another method is to dehumanize the opposition, e.g. calling President Biden "sleepy Joe" or "senile", or calling Trump a "mentally deficient fascist". There's nothing wrong with not liking a political figure. There's nothing wrong with seeing tribal behavior and calling it out. If you can't even put yourself into your opponent's shoes long enough to see any such criticisms of your own tribe, though, you're willfully remaining ignorant of a whole world view.