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why don’t these “unfairly” censored people build their own platform? oh! it’s hard. much harder than spouting their bs and complaining about “free speech”

api 4y ago
Some of them tried and either failed miserably or built cesspools only other hate addicts want to visit.
- mirceal 4y ago
  exactly! the gist of it is that they need people from the “other camp” and they need to get into shouting matches to feel like they matter and their crackpot ideas are valuable.
saboot 4y ago
They've already made a half dozen platforms, the market has clearly said that the majority of users are happy with Twitter as it is without them. But it's not good enough, we must be forced to listen to hear how the COVID vaccine is a mind control weapon and why we must fight (((globalists))).
eks391 4y ago
The unfairly banned people have made several platforms, they just never blow up and you don't hear about them. It's like an employee gets fired from target, a well known and established company, so they make their own pseudo target and you're shocked that you've never heard of their small one Edit: corrected autocorrect miswording
- mirceal 4y ago
  why don’t the platforms blow up? you’d think if these people are banned based on ideological issues only they would accumulate and thrive on these new platforms
  - shabier 4y ago
    It almost sounds like you're implying that most of the conversation is happening on Twitter, that it is the town hall. Good. Time to break it up and enforce fair rules.
    - mirceal 4y ago
      nope. not implying that. the reason twitter works and is successful is that you have people from all backgrounds and walks of life. people that get banned don't follow the rules that Twitter has (if the rules are fair, etc, is another discussion, but everyone has to follow the rules)
logicalmonster 4y ago
> why don’t these “unfairly” censored people build their own platform? Don't you recognize that this is exactly what happens? They do end up going to their own corners of the web, and idealogical-activists refuse to leave them alone and try and shut them down wherever they go. Look at how many times Gab, Parler, and other more free speech sites have been shut down.
mikkergp 4y ago
I wonder if the world can support a conservative Twitter. I think the problem is that if you're going to spout offensive nonsense it's not as much fun if there is no one around to be offended by it. And while those who are offended will fight it when it's a percentage of their platform, there will be a wave as people abandon what they see as a toxic platform. I mean sure there are platforms like 4chan and The Donald but 4chan's traffic is a fraction of what reddit's is. Given Elon's predilection for trolling it's odd he doesn't realize those people who are banned don't want to build anything, they just want to watch the world burn.
mardifoufs 4y ago
Sure. But if Elon Musk buys twitter, a private corporation, then he can decide who he platforms. Yet you see tons of people complaining exactly about that possibility here. So your comment is pretty ironic in the context of an entire thread filled with complaints about Musk getting his own platform.
- mirceal 4y ago
  i don't think the comment is ironic. it's in the direction of "I don't want Musk to mess with Twitter". I personally cannot do anything about it but watch and voice concern, but if enough people see the concern I am voicing maybe this will lead to a better outcome. who knows?
  - mardifoufs 4y ago
    I totally agree with that! The thing is, that's exactly what people have been doing only to be constantly dismissed because hey it's a private corporation and they shouldn't complain. The comment I replied to was literally doing just that, mocking people and calling them annoying because they kept voicing their concern for free speech, because they apparently shouldn't even complain since it's not their platform.

api 4y ago

Some of them tried and either failed miserably or built cesspools only other hate addicts want to visit.

mirceal 4y ago
exactly! the gist of it is that they need people from the “other camp” and they need to get into shouting matches to feel like they matter and their crackpot ideas are valuable.

saboot 4y ago

They've already made a half dozen platforms, the market has clearly said that the majority of users are happy with Twitter as it is without them. But it's not good enough, we must be forced to listen to hear how the COVID vaccine is a mind control weapon and why we must fight (((globalists))).

eks391 4y ago

The unfairly banned people have made several platforms, they just never blow up and you don't hear about them. It's like an employee gets fired from target, a well known and established company, so they make their own pseudo target and you're shocked that you've never heard of their small one Edit: corrected autocorrect miswording

mirceal 4y ago
why don’t the platforms blow up? you’d think if these people are banned based on ideological issues only they would accumulate and thrive on these new platforms
- shabier 4y ago
  It almost sounds like you're implying that most of the conversation is happening on Twitter, that it is the town hall. Good. Time to break it up and enforce fair rules.
  - mirceal 4y ago
    nope. not implying that. the reason twitter works and is successful is that you have people from all backgrounds and walks of life. people that get banned don't follow the rules that Twitter has (if the rules are fair, etc, is another discussion, but everyone has to follow the rules)

logicalmonster 4y ago

> why don’t these “unfairly” censored people build their own platform? Don't you recognize that this is exactly what happens? They do end up going to their own corners of the web, and idealogical-activists refuse to leave them alone and try and shut them down wherever they go. Look at how many times Gab, Parler, and other more free speech sites have been shut down.

mikkergp 4y ago

I wonder if the world can support a conservative Twitter. I think the problem is that if you're going to spout offensive nonsense it's not as much fun if there is no one around to be offended by it. And while those who are offended will fight it when it's a percentage of their platform, there will be a wave as people abandon what they see as a toxic platform. I mean sure there are platforms like 4chan and The Donald but 4chan's traffic is a fraction of what reddit's is. Given Elon's predilection for trolling it's odd he doesn't realize those people who are banned don't want to build anything, they just want to watch the world burn.

mardifoufs 4y ago

Sure. But if Elon Musk buys twitter, a private corporation, then he can decide who he platforms. Yet you see tons of people complaining exactly about that possibility here. So your comment is pretty ironic in the context of an entire thread filled with complaints about Musk getting his own platform.

mirceal 4y ago
i don't think the comment is ironic. it's in the direction of "I don't want Musk to mess with Twitter". I personally cannot do anything about it but watch and voice concern, but if enough people see the concern I am voicing maybe this will lead to a better outcome. who knows?
- mardifoufs 4y ago
  I totally agree with that! The thing is, that's exactly what people have been doing only to be constantly dismissed because hey it's a private corporation and they shouldn't complain. The comment I replied to was literally doing just that, mocking people and calling them annoying because they kept voicing their concern for free speech, because they apparently shouldn't even complain since it's not their platform.