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> people that are vehemently anti-Apple This is just it though! You're not describing "Apple fanatics versus Windows fanatics," you're describing "Apple fanati

by bccdee 5y ago

> people that are vehemently anti-Apple This is just it though! You're not describing "Apple fanatics versus Windows fanatics," you're describing "Apple fanatics versus people with an irrational and excessive hatred of Apple fanaticism." Why does this culture exist specifically around Apple?

sngz 5y ago
can't speak for others. but personally I'm forced to use macbooks at my last 2 companies. Tried to make the case for getting a dell XPS with linux installed but they refused to support it. Other than that I have senior family members that have trouble figuring out how to use an iphone, between the lack of SD card slot forcing them to navigate how to pay and use iCloud, and figuring out all the dongles with the lack of headphone jack now. They would keep harassing me to help them with their issues.
marcosdumay 5y ago
> Why does this culture exist specifically around Apple? It doesn't. It also exists around Linux, in general and around each distro. It exists around Windows. It exists around FreeBSD (but you may not have heard from them recently)... It basically exists everywhere. If you look at a thread about ARM, you will see it there, and the corresponding x86 one too. (And if you are lucky, you will catch some actual x86, not amd64, fans and anti-fans too). Haskell, Rust, Javascript, and PHP threads have those groups too.
- bccdee 5y ago
  It exists to some extent around Linux, because "Linux user" is an identity that some people care about, but I dispute that there are "Windows fans" and "Windows anti-fans" the way that there are Apple fans and anti-fans. Using Windows just isn't core to anyone's identity. The interesting difference between the identities of "Linux user" and "Apple customer" is that one came from grassroots hacker subculture and the other is the product of corporate marketing.

by bccdee 5y ago

sngz 5y ago

can't speak for others. but personally I'm forced to use macbooks at my last 2 companies. Tried to make the case for getting a dell XPS with linux installed but they refused to support it. Other than that I have senior family members that have trouble figuring out how to use an iphone, between the lack of SD card slot forcing them to navigate how to pay and use iCloud, and figuring out all the dongles with the lack of headphone jack now. They would keep harassing me to help them with their issues.

marcosdumay 5y ago

> Why does this culture exist specifically around Apple? It doesn't. It also exists around Linux, in general and around each distro. It exists around Windows. It exists around FreeBSD (but you may not have heard from them recently)... It basically exists everywhere. If you look at a thread about ARM, you will see it there, and the corresponding x86 one too. (And if you are lucky, you will catch some actual x86, not amd64, fans and anti-fans too). Haskell, Rust, Javascript, and PHP threads have those groups too.

bccdee 5y ago
It exists to some extent around Linux, because "Linux user" is an identity that some people care about, but I dispute that there are "Windows fans" and "Windows anti-fans" the way that there are Apple fans and anti-fans. Using Windows just isn't core to anyone's identity. The interesting difference between the identities of "Linux user" and "Apple customer" is that one came from grassroots hacker subculture and the other is the product of corporate marketing.