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> The most difficult thing I find about C is the (apparent) lack of libraries and packages I really am not sure if this is a joke or not, but almost every majo

> The most difficult thing I find about C is the (apparent) lack of libraries and packages I really am not sure if this is a joke or not, but almost every major library has a C interface. Almost all packages in your distro if you use linux have development versions that ship libraries that usually are linkable by C. In fact the wealth of libraries usable from C is usually noted as its main strength. What exactly are you missing, and have you tried googling? The GNU organization and similar all produce libraries(like https://www.gnu.org/software/gsl/ https://www.gnu.org/software/gsl/) that are mostly usable from C.

lumost 4y ago
Coming from a different language, the idea that the OS provides your libraries is a radical departure. Generally a modern developer working in any other language will look to github along with the languages package repository for libraries. Anecdotally the types of libraries shippable with the OS represent a specific category of application which doesn't encompass many developers needs. (Although on the other side, github does not provide usable drivers for most operating systems... your mileage may very).
- melissalobos 4y ago
  Even so, github does have a ton of very very popular C libraries(like https://github.com/nothings/stb https://github.com/nothings/stb). I was bringing up the OS provided ones since they claimed not to be able to find any. My main point is that it is patently absurd to claim that they could not find C libraries. Further: https://github.com/oz123/awesome-c https://github.com/oz123/awesome-c as another example of the many many C libraries you could find.
  - lumost 4y ago
    The next pain point is that most of those libraries have custom build processes etc. This is a far cry from what most developers work with. Conan is making progress, but the overlap of C projects which also work with Conan appears small. Many practical C projects seem to simply fork any dependencies they want to use and stick them in their own internal repo/build process.
- andrewmcwatters 4y ago
  You should be really careful about using libraries from distribution package managers because none of them can resist screwing with the source, which often times makes them unusable. Even the vendors themselves say don’t screw with the packages and maintainers do it anyway.

lumost 4y ago

Coming from a different language, the idea that the OS provides your libraries is a radical departure. Generally a modern developer working in any other language will look to github along with the languages package repository for libraries. Anecdotally the types of libraries shippable with the OS represent a specific category of application which doesn't encompass many developers needs. (Although on the other side, github does not provide usable drivers for most operating systems... your mileage may very).

melissalobos 4y ago
Even so, github does have a ton of very very popular C libraries(like https://github.com/nothings/stb https://github.com/nothings/stb). I was bringing up the OS provided ones since they claimed not to be able to find any. My main point is that it is patently absurd to claim that they could not find C libraries. Further: https://github.com/oz123/awesome-c https://github.com/oz123/awesome-c as another example of the many many C libraries you could find.
- lumost 4y ago
  The next pain point is that most of those libraries have custom build processes etc. This is a far cry from what most developers work with. Conan is making progress, but the overlap of C projects which also work with Conan appears small. Many practical C projects seem to simply fork any dependencies they want to use and stick them in their own internal repo/build process.
andrewmcwatters 4y ago
You should be really careful about using libraries from distribution package managers because none of them can resist screwing with the source, which often times makes them unusable. Even the vendors themselves say don’t screw with the packages and maintainers do it anyway.