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Nothing has held back science and progress more than that one quote in that one movie. Pretty amazing if you think about it.

mysterydip 4y ago
Are you saying science should progress regardless of consequences?
- mrfusion 4y ago
  Not at all. I’m saddened that a jurrasic park comparison shuts down all debate without considering the merits or risks.
  - mysterydip 4y ago
    Gotcha. I didn't see it as shutting down all debate, I saw it as exactly what you said: considering merits and risks.
  - zionic 4y ago
    I think this goes well beyond just this movie. Humans seem highly vulnerable, especially when in groups, to thought-terminating cliches like this. I wonder how you fight against it?
- dekhn 4y ago
  that is not a reasonable conclusion from what the person you are replying to said. Bad faith comment.
  - mysterydip 4y ago
    That's all the movie quote is saying. Do you interpret it differently?
    - dekhn 4y ago
      I guess the way I'd put it is that in internet etiquette, asking something like "Are you saying science should progress regardless of consequences?" isn't a reasonable response to a comment like "Nothing has held back science and progress more than that one quote in that one movie. Pretty amazing if you think about it. " They didn't say science should progress regardless of consequences, they didn't imply it, and the way you ask it sounds like you want to start an argument. Instead, what they said was that likely some legitimate scientific endeavours were discouraged by people quoting the movie when their concern wasn't warranted. I say this as somebody who spend 30 years learning how to permanently modify human genomes only to conclude we're not even remotely ready to have the ethics conversations those things would lead to.
eimrine 4y ago
"must go faster"?
JumpCrisscross 4y ago
> that one quote in that one movie Everyone in this thread is talking about different quotes [1]. [1] https://www.fandom.com/articles/jeff-goldblums-greatest-jurassic-park-quotes https://www.fandom.com/articles/jeff-goldblums-greatest-jura...

mysterydip 4y ago

Are you saying science should progress regardless of consequences?

mrfusion 4y ago
Not at all. I’m saddened that a jurrasic park comparison shuts down all debate without considering the merits or risks.
- mysterydip 4y ago
  Gotcha. I didn't see it as shutting down all debate, I saw it as exactly what you said: considering merits and risks.
- zionic 4y ago
  I think this goes well beyond just this movie. Humans seem highly vulnerable, especially when in groups, to thought-terminating cliches like this. I wonder how you fight against it?
dekhn 4y ago
that is not a reasonable conclusion from what the person you are replying to said. Bad faith comment.
- mysterydip 4y ago
  That's all the movie quote is saying. Do you interpret it differently?
  - dekhn 4y ago
    I guess the way I'd put it is that in internet etiquette, asking something like "Are you saying science should progress regardless of consequences?" isn't a reasonable response to a comment like "Nothing has held back science and progress more than that one quote in that one movie. Pretty amazing if you think about it. " They didn't say science should progress regardless of consequences, they didn't imply it, and the way you ask it sounds like you want to start an argument. Instead, what they said was that likely some legitimate scientific endeavours were discouraged by people quoting the movie when their concern wasn't warranted. I say this as somebody who spend 30 years learning how to permanently modify human genomes only to conclude we're not even remotely ready to have the ethics conversations those things would lead to.

eimrine 4y ago

"must go faster"?

JumpCrisscross 4y ago

> that one quote in that one movie Everyone in this thread is talking about different quotes [1]. [1] https://www.fandom.com/articles/jeff-goldblums-greatest-jurassic-park-quotes https://www.fandom.com/articles/jeff-goldblums-greatest-jura...