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Jeff Goldblum's character in Jurassic Park was right.

idontwantthis 4y ago
Not according to this article.
mrfusion 4y ago
Nothing has held back science and progress more than that one quote in that one movie. Pretty amazing if you think about it.
- mysterydip 4y ago
  Are you saying science should progress regardless of consequences?
  - mrfusion 4y ago
    Not at all. I’m saddened that a jurrasic park comparison shuts down all debate without considering the merits or risks.
    - mysterydip 4y ago
      Gotcha. I didn't see it as shutting down all debate, I saw it as exactly what you said: considering merits and risks.
    - zionic 4y ago
      I think this goes well beyond just this movie. Humans seem highly vulnerable, especially when in groups, to thought-terminating cliches like this. I wonder how you fight against it?
  - dekhn 4y ago
    that is not a reasonable conclusion from what the person you are replying to said. Bad faith comment.
    - mysterydip 4y ago
      That's all the movie quote is saying. Do you interpret it differently?
      - dekhn 4y ago
        I guess the way I'd put it is that in internet etiquette, asking something like "Are you saying science should progress regardless of consequences?" isn't a reasonable response to a comment like "Nothing has held back science and progress more than that one quote in that one movie. Pretty amazing if you think about it. " They didn't say science should progress regardless of consequences, they didn't imply it, and the way you ask it sounds like you want to start an argument. Instead, what they said was that likely some legitimate scientific endeavours were discouraged by people quoting the movie when their concern wasn't warranted. I say this as somebody who spend 30 years learning how to permanently modify human genomes only to conclude we're not even remotely ready to have the ethics conversations those things would lead to.
- eimrine 4y ago
  "must go faster"?
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago
  > that one quote in that one movie Everyone in this thread is talking about different quotes [1]. [1] https://www.fandom.com/articles/jeff-goldblums-greatest-jurassic-park-quotes https://www.fandom.com/articles/jeff-goldblums-greatest-jura...
jjoonathan 4y ago
The dinosaurs don't escape because the mathematics of chaos theory dictate that it is inevitable, they escape because otherwise nobody would pay to see the movie. I am still amazed that this one little piece of artistic puffery managed to singlehandedly meme "GMO bad" into prominence.
- lesuorac 4y ago
  Did you see how many people were staffing that park? When your facilities crew is in the single digits there are going to be problems!
  - fullstop 4y ago
    He spared no expenses, but only had one IT guy. They also drink champagne from water glasses even though there are champagne flutes right on the counter! I think that Hammond didn't really know what he was doing.
    - lesuorac 4y ago
      In Hammond's defense, the IT guy was so good a child could use his work.
  - strictnein 4y ago
    I think it's a little clearer in the book, but most of the staff left the island for {insert plot point} reasons.
    - lesuorac 4y ago
      Fair, it's just a big pet peeve of mine how staff in movies is just so bare-bones. Like with the book of bobba fett where there's a crime lord (bobba) whose "coffers are full" and just needs to hire some help and he hires nobody! His "army" was a business partner (fennac), a friend (wookie), another friend (dan), a pet, existing employees (mods), and unpaid citizens (freetown).
    - 4y ago

Not according to this article.

Nothing has held back science and progress more than that one quote in that one movie. Pretty amazing if you think about it.

mysterydip 4y ago
Are you saying science should progress regardless of consequences?
- mrfusion 4y ago
  Not at all. I’m saddened that a jurrasic park comparison shuts down all debate without considering the merits or risks.
  - mysterydip 4y ago
    Gotcha. I didn't see it as shutting down all debate, I saw it as exactly what you said: considering merits and risks.
  - zionic 4y ago
    I think this goes well beyond just this movie. Humans seem highly vulnerable, especially when in groups, to thought-terminating cliches like this. I wonder how you fight against it?
- dekhn 4y ago
  that is not a reasonable conclusion from what the person you are replying to said. Bad faith comment.
  - mysterydip 4y ago
    That's all the movie quote is saying. Do you interpret it differently?
    - dekhn 4y ago
      I guess the way I'd put it is that in internet etiquette, asking something like "Are you saying science should progress regardless of consequences?" isn't a reasonable response to a comment like "Nothing has held back science and progress more than that one quote in that one movie. Pretty amazing if you think about it. " They didn't say science should progress regardless of consequences, they didn't imply it, and the way you ask it sounds like you want to start an argument. Instead, what they said was that likely some legitimate scientific endeavours were discouraged by people quoting the movie when their concern wasn't warranted. I say this as somebody who spend 30 years learning how to permanently modify human genomes only to conclude we're not even remotely ready to have the ethics conversations those things would lead to.
eimrine 4y ago
"must go faster"?
JumpCrisscross 4y ago
> that one quote in that one movie Everyone in this thread is talking about different quotes [1]. [1] https://www.fandom.com/articles/jeff-goldblums-greatest-jurassic-park-quotes https://www.fandom.com/articles/jeff-goldblums-greatest-jura...

jjoonathan 4y ago

The dinosaurs don't escape because the mathematics of chaos theory dictate that it is inevitable, they escape because otherwise nobody would pay to see the movie. I am still amazed that this one little piece of artistic puffery managed to singlehandedly meme "GMO bad" into prominence.

lesuorac 4y ago
Did you see how many people were staffing that park? When your facilities crew is in the single digits there are going to be problems!
- fullstop 4y ago
  He spared no expenses, but only had one IT guy. They also drink champagne from water glasses even though there are champagne flutes right on the counter! I think that Hammond didn't really know what he was doing.
  - lesuorac 4y ago
    In Hammond's defense, the IT guy was so good a child could use his work.
- strictnein 4y ago
  I think it's a little clearer in the book, but most of the staff left the island for {insert plot point} reasons.
  - lesuorac 4y ago
    Fair, it's just a big pet peeve of mine how staff in movies is just so bare-bones. Like with the book of bobba fett where there's a crime lord (bobba) whose "coffers are full" and just needs to hire some help and he hires nobody! His "army" was a business partner (fennac), a friend (wookie), another friend (dan), a pet, existing employees (mods), and unpaid citizens (freetown).
  - 4y ago