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Increase in hepatitis of unknown origin in children

110 points by puttycat 4y ago

pvaldes 4y ago
As update an Adenovirus has been claimed as candidate of interest. And was happening since 2021 also in a case not related with neither European war or weather https://www.uab.edu/news/health/item/12805-new-adenovirus-strain-potentially-linked-to-pediatric-hepatitis-outbreak-in-alabama https://www.uab.edu/news/health/item/12805-new-adenovirus-st...
sylware 4y ago
Nasty. New Virus or variant?
- WithinReason 4y ago
  Hepatitis is simply an inflammation of the liver, so could be anything
  - xbar 4y ago
    This is unreasonably dismissive.
- bart_spoon 4y ago
  It’s unclear. In other reporting on this it’s been reported that several of the cases where in children who had recently tested positive for Covid, so there could be a link there, but there were just as many who didn’t test positive so it could be coincidental. Even more of them tested positive for an adenovirus, though it’s unclear if it’s a new adenovirus or variant. There’s also speculation that perhaps that due to Covid preventative measures, there are more children whose immune systems haven’t been primed the way they normally would and it’s manifesting itself this way in response to viruses that aren’t novel. But at this point it all seems to be speculation and there doesn’t seem to be any thing like a definitive answer.
okthisisasign 4y ago
Is it possible that the mrna vaccines are impacting the liver in some way?
- zinekeller 4y ago
  It seems most of them are not vaccinated at all, so that's probably not a factor.
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
- SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
  Ajoo posted this in another part of the thread, but in the UK none of the children with this have been vaccinated so no, it is not possible. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/increase-in-hepatitis-liver-inflammation-cases-in-children-under-investigation https://www.gov.uk/government/news/increase-in-hepatitis-liv...
- tpm 4y ago
  If they were vaccinated, it would be possible, but they are not. According to ECDC, "with most of these cases aged between 2 and 5 years" - children under 5 are not vaccinated. https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/update-hepatitis-unknown-origin-children https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/update-hepatitis-u...
  - thematrixturtle 4y ago
    Must be because of the all the shedding from the vaccine carriers then! /s, I'd like to think, but I have no doubt the tinfoil hat brigade will link this to vaccines somehow.
    - tzs 4y ago
      For those who don't know what he's talking about, one of the things that did show up fairly often in the more conspiracy minded anti-vaccination circles was that vaccinated people shed mRNA into the surrounding environment, often accompanied by a claim that this mRNA makes surrounding unvaccinated people sick and this is really why unvaccinated people were so massively more likely to get seriously ill or die during the delta and omicron waves. I haven't seen that lately though. I think much of that crowd has moved on to other theories, like that COVID isn't even caused by a virus. For instance one I've seen a few times recently is that it is caused by the government (or the elites or the Jews or the Democrats) putting snake venom in the water supply. Such claims are often accompanied by an offer to sell some form of protection against that snake venom, usually consisting of buying the offerer's particular supplements. If you want to see a good sampling of these kinds of things, head over to /r/HermanCainAward and browse the "awarded" and "nominated" posts. Don't read the comments there because they are often quite mean, but just reading the submission itself is quite enlightening.
aaron695 4y ago
giraffe_lady 4y ago
- fuckcensorship 4y ago
  Are you implying that these children are getting hepatitis because there weren’t enough measures taken to prevent/control COVID?
  - giraffe_lady 4y ago
    yes.
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]
  - toomuchtodo 4y ago
    https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4470 https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4470 (Long covid: Damage to multiple organs presents in young, low risk patients)
    - mcphage 4y ago
      Is there an indication that these kids got COVID?
      - toomuchtodo 4y ago
        > Participants were eligible if they tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 by random polymerase chain reaction swab (n=62), a positive antibody test (n=63), or had typical symptoms and were determined to have covid-19 by two independent clinicians (n=73). > The prevalence of pre-existing conditions was low (obesity: 20%, hypertension: 6%, diabetes: 2%, heart disease: 4%), and less than a fifth (18%) of individuals had been hospitalised with covid-19.
      - tremon 4y ago
xyzzy21 4y ago
Were the kids vaxed?
- fuckcensorship 4y ago
  From the article: > In a statement, it said "no link to the Covid-19 vaccine was identified and detailed information collected through a questionnaire to cases about food, drink and personal habits failed to identify any common exposure." So… maybe?
  - Ajoo 4y ago
    The first article I read about this during the weekend mentioned that none of the UK children had been vaccinated. Sadly I couldn't find it but this one (https://theconversation.com/hepatitis-cases-are-increasing-among-children-in-the-uk-could-covid-have-a-role-to-play-181303 https://theconversation.com/hepatitis-cases-are-increasing-a...) claims the same.
    - philjohn 4y ago
      Father to 2 children in the UK here. My 10 year old has only JUST been offered the vaccine, my teenager was only offered it a month ago. So very unlikely these children were vaccinated given the age ranges.
- nickdothutton 4y ago
  Very unlikely, they are too young.
- iamben 4y ago
  This article: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2315740-mystery-outbreak-of-hepatitis-in-children-investigated-in-the-uk/ https://www.newscientist.com/article/2315740-mystery-outbrea... - states the kids were aged 2 to 5, which is too young for the vaccine.
  - cryptonector 4y ago
cde-v 4y ago
vixen99 4y ago
Cases of Auto-immune hepatitis following COVID vaccination have been reported. This link should at least be investigated. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34225251/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34225251/ "We hope that our report does not deter COVID vaccination drives. However, we also hope to raise awareness of its potential side effects and the increased role of pharmacovigilance in guiding treatment."
- SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
  If that's the case it would appear to be unrelated to this as all the children in the UK experiencing it aren't vaccinated. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/increase-in-hepatitis-liver-inflammation-cases-in-children-under-investigation https://www.gov.uk/government/news/increase-in-hepatitis-liv... Important quote: "There is no link to the COVID-19 vaccine. None of the currently confirmed cases in the UK has been vaccinated."
- tpm 4y ago
  They are not vaccinated. https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/update-hepatitis-unknown-origin-children https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/update-hepatitis-u...
- chownie 4y ago
  This is unrelated, as none of the confirmed cases involved vaccinated children. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/increase-in-hepatitis-liver-inflammation-cases-in-children-under-investigation https://www.gov.uk/government/news/increase-in-hepatitis-liv...
- tremon 4y ago
  If we're going to throw out baseless accusations, then why not the Ferrero candy factory that was ordered closed after failing to disclose a salmonella outbreak? https://nypost.com/2022/04/08/candy-factory-that-makes-kinder-chocolate-eggs-closed-over-salmonella-outbreak/ https://nypost.com/2022/04/08/candy-factory-that-makes-kinde... Same countries affected: "Spain, Britain, Ireland and United States" for the Ferrero case, and [UK, Ireland,] "Spain, Denmark and the Netherlands, as well as the United States" for the hepatitis cases. (edit: link that explicitly mentions the initial detection of salmonella in december: https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2022/04/kinder-chocolate-recall-hits-u-s-as-belgian-officials-close-plant-linked-to-outbreak/ https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2022/04/kinder-chocolate-reca...)
pvaldes 4y ago
Maybe related with the desert dust that fell over most Europe just in the same weeks with the rains and could have some harmful substance or organism with them. I assume that the Russians did not caused anything nasty in Chernobyl that we aren't aware still, or that the war didn't bring some nasty substances to Europe via clouds and rain but... trust but verify. But the US cases are an outlier.
- hef19898 4y ago
  Sahara dust is pretty common thing in Europe. And if that was the case, wouldn't it be worse in the countries the dust came from?
  - nomel 4y ago
    Perhaps not, assuming they were exposed to it their whole lives, and have immunity to the local microorganisms. For a more relatable example, don't drink the water in Mexico, even if you see the locals drinking it.
- Cthulhu_ 4y ago
  Sahara dust is a thing that's been happening for hundreds of thousands of years, so I don't think that's anything to worry about (it's a valuable source of phosphorus for nature / farming as well). You're reaching for explanations btw.
- kaybe 4y ago
  You don't need to worry about unknown radioactive exposure. We have a very good monitoring system that will detect even very minor releases once they become distributed. The reporting channels in the west are trustworthy too. In addition we have widespread atmospheric monitoring as well. You can circumvent that by releasing only substances that are not watched, but I don't think that's that easy, and you'd have to do it intentionally. Eg anything connected with fire will show up.
- adamsmith143 4y ago
  Radiation poisoning would present very differently from Hepatitis.
ericlavigne 4y ago
Last week’s WHO emergency announcement of the same issue: https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/acute-hepatitis-of-unknown-aetiology---the-united-kingdom-of-great-britain-and-northern-ireland https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/a... Top suspects are both viruses: Sars-Cov-2 (COVID-19) and adenovirus 41. But the real cause could just as easily be something else that hadn’t been detected yet. It’s just too early to be certain.
- anonuser123456 4y ago
  I don’t see why sar-cov-2 would be suspect given it has been running around for a good 2 years already. Unless there is a suspected lower base rate and the sheer speed at which BA.1/2 rips through the population.
  - d4mi3n 4y ago
    Bacteria occasionally intermingle and swap DNA. Most such mutations are not viable, but occasionally you end up with the odd survivor. This gets more interesting with viruses in the mix. When two viruses infect the same host that later gene transfers items genes the viral payload can end up joining. It’s a weird, fascinating, and somewhat horrifying (conceptually) process. See: https://youtu.be/GzCLp1KBf4Q https://youtu.be/GzCLp1KBf4Q
  - ericlavigne 4y ago
    Why Sars-Cov-2 is a suspect: 1) Many of these hepatitis patients tested positive for Sars-Cov-2 when they arrived at the hospital for hepatitis. 2) Sars-Cov-2 is changing fast. Just in the last few months it has changed substantially several times. Increased hepatitis risk in kids might be one of those changes. 3) The usual causes of hepatitis were not present, and no better explanation has been found yet. Investigation still in progress. Might be one of these two viruses. Might be something else that hasn’t been detected yet.
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]
lbj 4y ago
[flagged]
RedBeetDeadpool 4y ago
meta comment. If you want to see flagged comments go to your profile and: `show dead: yes` Having said that I'd prefer flagging to be used only for spam and the like. No one holds rights to what is or is not misinformation.
- erdos4d 4y ago
  I really wish this board did away with flagging. It seems to just censor people far more than anything. I've had my own tech related submissions flagged because they obviously just piss someone off around here and it never gets unflagged or even reviewed from what I can tell. I know I am missing out on other people's content and opinions as well and I don't like having some self appointed "moral police" around here deciding that for me.
  - cryptonector 4y ago
    Flagging is very easy to game. Maybe if we all get into that game, then it will stop.
  - kayodelycaon 4y ago
    Most of the flagged comments I've seen are low quality, off topic, or violating the code of conduct. Flagging is a mechanism of distributed moderation. And there is a system where high-karma users can vouch for a comment and have it reappear. Also, anyone can opt in to see flagged comments. So they aren't being completely hidden off the site unless they get nuked from the backend.
- nanidin 4y ago
  I disagree that “no one holds rights to what is or is not misinformation” - if we take that position to its end, then we must accept that all places for public discussion are subject to being overrun by trolls or vocal minority opinion. Strong communities need strong moderation lest they devolve into lesser communities. edit: My opinion is based somewhat on "Well-Kept Gardens Die by Pacifism"[0]. [0] https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/tscc3e5eujrsEeFN4/well-kept-gardens-die-by-pacifism https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/tscc3e5eujrsEeFN4/well-kept-...
acd 4y ago
Covid increases blod knots coagulation in adults. Is there any link from covid to hepatitis?
genousti 4y ago
Ok i have a question. Since I got covid I get extremely tired after drinking one bottle of wine and almost sick if i drink more than that with no drive at all for the full day and I feel somethi g is pushing near the liver. I thought it was muscular as it is not painful at all. I feel overall i became really weak to alcohol because of covid. I could drink one bottle of wine and run in the morning before. Should I worry?
- tjr225 4y ago
  Why in tarnation are you asking the comments on Hackernews for medical advice?
  - h3cate 4y ago
    Doesn't everybody get potentially life changing medical advice from Hacker news?
    - quxpar 4y ago
      I found my favorite probiotic via offhand HN comment buried deep in a subthread.
      - fnordpiglet 4y ago
        Link?
        mypalmike 4y ago
        Why in tarnation...
    - ryandrake 4y ago
      If we learned anything in the last two years, we learned some number of people will seek and follow medical advice from anyone except medical professionals.
- warning26 4y ago

110 points by puttycat 4y ago

As update an Adenovirus has been claimed as candidate of interest. And was happening since 2021 also in a case not related with neither European war or weather https://www.uab.edu/news/health/item/12805-new-adenovirus-strain-potentially-linked-to-pediatric-hepatitis-outbreak-in-alabama https://www.uab.edu/news/health/item/12805-new-adenovirus-st...

sylware 4y ago

Nasty. New Virus or variant?

WithinReason 4y ago
Hepatitis is simply an inflammation of the liver, so could be anything
- xbar 4y ago
  This is unreasonably dismissive.
bart_spoon 4y ago
It’s unclear. In other reporting on this it’s been reported that several of the cases where in children who had recently tested positive for Covid, so there could be a link there, but there were just as many who didn’t test positive so it could be coincidental. Even more of them tested positive for an adenovirus, though it’s unclear if it’s a new adenovirus or variant. There’s also speculation that perhaps that due to Covid preventative measures, there are more children whose immune systems haven’t been primed the way they normally would and it’s manifesting itself this way in response to viruses that aren’t novel. But at this point it all seems to be speculation and there doesn’t seem to be any thing like a definitive answer.

okthisisasign 4y ago

Is it possible that the mrna vaccines are impacting the liver in some way?

zinekeller 4y ago
It seems most of them are not vaccinated at all, so that's probably not a factor.
deleted 4y ago
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SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
Ajoo posted this in another part of the thread, but in the UK none of the children with this have been vaccinated so no, it is not possible. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/increase-in-hepatitis-liver-inflammation-cases-in-children-under-investigation https://www.gov.uk/government/news/increase-in-hepatitis-liv...
tpm 4y ago
If they were vaccinated, it would be possible, but they are not. According to ECDC, "with most of these cases aged between 2 and 5 years" - children under 5 are not vaccinated. https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/update-hepatitis-unknown-origin-children https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/update-hepatitis-u...
- thematrixturtle 4y ago
  Must be because of the all the shedding from the vaccine carriers then! /s, I'd like to think, but I have no doubt the tinfoil hat brigade will link this to vaccines somehow.
  - tzs 4y ago
    For those who don't know what he's talking about, one of the things that did show up fairly often in the more conspiracy minded anti-vaccination circles was that vaccinated people shed mRNA into the surrounding environment, often accompanied by a claim that this mRNA makes surrounding unvaccinated people sick and this is really why unvaccinated people were so massively more likely to get seriously ill or die during the delta and omicron waves. I haven't seen that lately though. I think much of that crowd has moved on to other theories, like that COVID isn't even caused by a virus. For instance one I've seen a few times recently is that it is caused by the government (or the elites or the Jews or the Democrats) putting snake venom in the water supply. Such claims are often accompanied by an offer to sell some form of protection against that snake venom, usually consisting of buying the offerer's particular supplements. If you want to see a good sampling of these kinds of things, head over to /r/HermanCainAward and browse the "awarded" and "nominated" posts. Don't read the comments there because they are often quite mean, but just reading the submission itself is quite enlightening.

aaron695 4y ago

giraffe_lady 4y ago

fuckcensorship 4y ago
Are you implying that these children are getting hepatitis because there weren’t enough measures taken to prevent/control COVID?
- giraffe_lady 4y ago
  yes.
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
- toomuchtodo 4y ago
  https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4470 https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4470 (Long covid: Damage to multiple organs presents in young, low risk patients)
  - mcphage 4y ago
    Is there an indication that these kids got COVID?
    - toomuchtodo 4y ago
      > Participants were eligible if they tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 by random polymerase chain reaction swab (n=62), a positive antibody test (n=63), or had typical symptoms and were determined to have covid-19 by two independent clinicians (n=73). > The prevalence of pre-existing conditions was low (obesity: 20%, hypertension: 6%, diabetes: 2%, heart disease: 4%), and less than a fifth (18%) of individuals had been hospitalised with covid-19.
    - tremon 4y ago

xyzzy21 4y ago

Were the kids vaxed?

fuckcensorship 4y ago
From the article: > In a statement, it said "no link to the Covid-19 vaccine was identified and detailed information collected through a questionnaire to cases about food, drink and personal habits failed to identify any common exposure." So… maybe?
- Ajoo 4y ago
  The first article I read about this during the weekend mentioned that none of the UK children had been vaccinated. Sadly I couldn't find it but this one (https://theconversation.com/hepatitis-cases-are-increasing-among-children-in-the-uk-could-covid-have-a-role-to-play-181303 https://theconversation.com/hepatitis-cases-are-increasing-a...) claims the same.
  - philjohn 4y ago
    Father to 2 children in the UK here. My 10 year old has only JUST been offered the vaccine, my teenager was only offered it a month ago. So very unlikely these children were vaccinated given the age ranges.
nickdothutton 4y ago
Very unlikely, they are too young.
iamben 4y ago
This article: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2315740-mystery-outbreak-of-hepatitis-in-children-investigated-in-the-uk/ https://www.newscientist.com/article/2315740-mystery-outbrea... - states the kids were aged 2 to 5, which is too young for the vaccine.
- cryptonector 4y ago

cde-v 4y ago

vixen99 4y ago

Cases of Auto-immune hepatitis following COVID vaccination have been reported. This link should at least be investigated. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34225251/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34225251/ "We hope that our report does not deter COVID vaccination drives. However, we also hope to raise awareness of its potential side effects and the increased role of pharmacovigilance in guiding treatment."

SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
If that's the case it would appear to be unrelated to this as all the children in the UK experiencing it aren't vaccinated. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/increase-in-hepatitis-liver-inflammation-cases-in-children-under-investigation https://www.gov.uk/government/news/increase-in-hepatitis-liv... Important quote: "There is no link to the COVID-19 vaccine. None of the currently confirmed cases in the UK has been vaccinated."
tpm 4y ago
They are not vaccinated. https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/update-hepatitis-unknown-origin-children https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/news-events/update-hepatitis-u...
chownie 4y ago
This is unrelated, as none of the confirmed cases involved vaccinated children. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/increase-in-hepatitis-liver-inflammation-cases-in-children-under-investigation https://www.gov.uk/government/news/increase-in-hepatitis-liv...
tremon 4y ago
If we're going to throw out baseless accusations, then why not the Ferrero candy factory that was ordered closed after failing to disclose a salmonella outbreak? https://nypost.com/2022/04/08/candy-factory-that-makes-kinder-chocolate-eggs-closed-over-salmonella-outbreak/ https://nypost.com/2022/04/08/candy-factory-that-makes-kinde... Same countries affected: "Spain, Britain, Ireland and United States" for the Ferrero case, and [UK, Ireland,] "Spain, Denmark and the Netherlands, as well as the United States" for the hepatitis cases. (edit: link that explicitly mentions the initial detection of salmonella in december: https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2022/04/kinder-chocolate-recall-hits-u-s-as-belgian-officials-close-plant-linked-to-outbreak/ https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2022/04/kinder-chocolate-reca...)

pvaldes 4y ago

Maybe related with the desert dust that fell over most Europe just in the same weeks with the rains and could have some harmful substance or organism with them. I assume that the Russians did not caused anything nasty in Chernobyl that we aren't aware still, or that the war didn't bring some nasty substances to Europe via clouds and rain but... trust but verify. But the US cases are an outlier.

hef19898 4y ago
Sahara dust is pretty common thing in Europe. And if that was the case, wouldn't it be worse in the countries the dust came from?
- nomel 4y ago
  Perhaps not, assuming they were exposed to it their whole lives, and have immunity to the local microorganisms. For a more relatable example, don't drink the water in Mexico, even if you see the locals drinking it.
Cthulhu_ 4y ago
Sahara dust is a thing that's been happening for hundreds of thousands of years, so I don't think that's anything to worry about (it's a valuable source of phosphorus for nature / farming as well). You're reaching for explanations btw.
kaybe 4y ago
You don't need to worry about unknown radioactive exposure. We have a very good monitoring system that will detect even very minor releases once they become distributed. The reporting channels in the west are trustworthy too. In addition we have widespread atmospheric monitoring as well. You can circumvent that by releasing only substances that are not watched, but I don't think that's that easy, and you'd have to do it intentionally. Eg anything connected with fire will show up.
adamsmith143 4y ago
Radiation poisoning would present very differently from Hepatitis.

ericlavigne 4y ago

Last week’s WHO emergency announcement of the same issue: https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/acute-hepatitis-of-unknown-aetiology---the-united-kingdom-of-great-britain-and-northern-ireland https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/a... Top suspects are both viruses: Sars-Cov-2 (COVID-19) and adenovirus 41. But the real cause could just as easily be something else that hadn’t been detected yet. It’s just too early to be certain.

anonuser123456 4y ago
I don’t see why sar-cov-2 would be suspect given it has been running around for a good 2 years already. Unless there is a suspected lower base rate and the sheer speed at which BA.1/2 rips through the population.
- d4mi3n 4y ago
  Bacteria occasionally intermingle and swap DNA. Most such mutations are not viable, but occasionally you end up with the odd survivor. This gets more interesting with viruses in the mix. When two viruses infect the same host that later gene transfers items genes the viral payload can end up joining. It’s a weird, fascinating, and somewhat horrifying (conceptually) process. See: https://youtu.be/GzCLp1KBf4Q https://youtu.be/GzCLp1KBf4Q
- ericlavigne 4y ago
  Why Sars-Cov-2 is a suspect: 1) Many of these hepatitis patients tested positive for Sars-Cov-2 when they arrived at the hospital for hepatitis. 2) Sars-Cov-2 is changing fast. Just in the last few months it has changed substantially several times. Increased hepatitis risk in kids might be one of those changes. 3) The usual causes of hepatitis were not present, and no better explanation has been found yet. Investigation still in progress. Might be one of these two viruses. Might be something else that hasn’t been detected yet.
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]

lbj 4y ago

[flagged]

RedBeetDeadpool 4y ago

meta comment. If you want to see flagged comments go to your profile and: `show dead: yes` Having said that I'd prefer flagging to be used only for spam and the like. No one holds rights to what is or is not misinformation.

erdos4d 4y ago
I really wish this board did away with flagging. It seems to just censor people far more than anything. I've had my own tech related submissions flagged because they obviously just piss someone off around here and it never gets unflagged or even reviewed from what I can tell. I know I am missing out on other people's content and opinions as well and I don't like having some self appointed "moral police" around here deciding that for me.
- cryptonector 4y ago
  Flagging is very easy to game. Maybe if we all get into that game, then it will stop.
- kayodelycaon 4y ago
  Most of the flagged comments I've seen are low quality, off topic, or violating the code of conduct. Flagging is a mechanism of distributed moderation. And there is a system where high-karma users can vouch for a comment and have it reappear. Also, anyone can opt in to see flagged comments. So they aren't being completely hidden off the site unless they get nuked from the backend.
nanidin 4y ago
I disagree that “no one holds rights to what is or is not misinformation” - if we take that position to its end, then we must accept that all places for public discussion are subject to being overrun by trolls or vocal minority opinion. Strong communities need strong moderation lest they devolve into lesser communities. edit: My opinion is based somewhat on "Well-Kept Gardens Die by Pacifism"[0]. [0] https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/tscc3e5eujrsEeFN4/well-kept-gardens-die-by-pacifism https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/tscc3e5eujrsEeFN4/well-kept-...

acd 4y ago

Covid increases blod knots coagulation in adults. Is there any link from covid to hepatitis?

genousti 4y ago

Ok i have a question. Since I got covid I get extremely tired after drinking one bottle of wine and almost sick if i drink more than that with no drive at all for the full day and I feel somethi g is pushing near the liver. I thought it was muscular as it is not painful at all. I feel overall i became really weak to alcohol because of covid. I could drink one bottle of wine and run in the morning before. Should I worry?

tjr225 4y ago
Why in tarnation are you asking the comments on Hackernews for medical advice?
- h3cate 4y ago
  Doesn't everybody get potentially life changing medical advice from Hacker news?
  - quxpar 4y ago
    I found my favorite probiotic via offhand HN comment buried deep in a subthread.
    - fnordpiglet 4y ago
      Link?
      - mypalmike 4y ago
        Why in tarnation...
  - ryandrake 4y ago
    If we learned anything in the last two years, we learned some number of people will seek and follow medical advice from anyone except medical professionals.
warning26 4y ago