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Not advocating for censorship here, but isn't the problem obvious? Making cringe compilations of the "other side" crates a distorted selective image. One that

Not advocating for censorship here, but isn't the problem obvious? Making cringe compilations of the "other side" crates a distorted selective image. One that is easier to dismiss and hate. With how humans process information, it's essentially equivalent to misinformation. It's not anything new or innovative though, "SJW cringe compilations" have been popular for the last decade. But they created some people with a really warped understanding of social justice movements, and I know because sometimes I make the mistake of arguing with them.

zionic 5y ago
Ok? So make a redneck cringe compilation. I’m sure plenty of those exist on YouTube. Hell we have “idiots in cars #63767” going strong. The difference is powerful politically-connected groups don’t start hunting you down via insider baseball like this if you make fun of the right people.
- sascha_sl 5y ago
  The answer to misinformation is not more misinformation; that aside, it's not usually the left who claims the "free marketplace of ideas" will sort everything out.
  - zionic 5y ago
    Wouldn’t your viewpoint ban all the left wing comedians? Wait, ok I agree with you now.
- true_religion 5y ago
  Disambgiuating who is who, gives you this idea: powerful well connected groups hunt you down if you make fun of them. Obviously if you attack someone, there is going to be some repercussion. If you are like me, and have no stake in this fight, then why defend either side?
oefrha 5y ago
> Making cringe compilations of the "other side" crates a distorted selective image. That’s what almost every single media outlet has been doing about enemy/unfriendly foreign states since forever. People seem to be completely fine with that.
- sascha_sl 5y ago
  That's very unspecific, but in a "you seem to be thinking of something specific" way. I'm not sure what your point is, most people who watch Libs of Tik Tok also seem completely fine with that. I didn't say humans are not biased, in fact I said they're too biased.
  - oefrha 5y ago
    The point is making cringe compilations (figuratively speaking) to create distorted selective images is literally among the MOs of WaPo and the like. Libs of TikTok is a more extreme, less disguised and closer to home version of that.
    - sascha_sl 5y ago
      Narrativizing is always part of media. You figure that one out without even trying as a trans person, fact checking studies is one of the more frequent activities when I argue with people. Most are resistant to it to the point where they lock down into "everyone who disagrees with me is biased", which is probably actually true (without the "who disagrees with me" part), but their weighing is once again informed by their bias. And often it is impossible to untangle. Libs of Tik Tok, other than most media outlets, makes this much worse. In my experience, the number of things reported that didn't happen or are outright misinfo in my field are overwhelmingly far right sources, sometimes trickling down into rainbow press (ironicly named so) or more serious center-left outlets.
yucky 5y ago
>Making cringe compilations of the "other side" crates a distorted selective image. Isn't this essentially all Reddit is at this point though? And to a lesser extent, leftwing media and rightwing media do the same. How often will CNN or FOX have a coherent debate with knowledgeable people representing differing sides of an issue?

zionic 5y ago

Ok? So make a redneck cringe compilation. I’m sure plenty of those exist on YouTube. Hell we have “idiots in cars #63767” going strong. The difference is powerful politically-connected groups don’t start hunting you down via insider baseball like this if you make fun of the right people.

sascha_sl 5y ago
The answer to misinformation is not more misinformation; that aside, it's not usually the left who claims the "free marketplace of ideas" will sort everything out.
- zionic 5y ago
  Wouldn’t your viewpoint ban all the left wing comedians? Wait, ok I agree with you now.
true_religion 5y ago
Disambgiuating who is who, gives you this idea: powerful well connected groups hunt you down if you make fun of them. Obviously if you attack someone, there is going to be some repercussion. If you are like me, and have no stake in this fight, then why defend either side?

oefrha 5y ago

> Making cringe compilations of the "other side" crates a distorted selective image. That’s what almost every single media outlet has been doing about enemy/unfriendly foreign states since forever. People seem to be completely fine with that.

sascha_sl 5y ago
That's very unspecific, but in a "you seem to be thinking of something specific" way. I'm not sure what your point is, most people who watch Libs of Tik Tok also seem completely fine with that. I didn't say humans are not biased, in fact I said they're too biased.
- oefrha 5y ago
  The point is making cringe compilations (figuratively speaking) to create distorted selective images is literally among the MOs of WaPo and the like. Libs of TikTok is a more extreme, less disguised and closer to home version of that.
  - sascha_sl 5y ago
    Narrativizing is always part of media. You figure that one out without even trying as a trans person, fact checking studies is one of the more frequent activities when I argue with people. Most are resistant to it to the point where they lock down into "everyone who disagrees with me is biased", which is probably actually true (without the "who disagrees with me" part), but their weighing is once again informed by their bias. And often it is impossible to untangle. Libs of Tik Tok, other than most media outlets, makes this much worse. In my experience, the number of things reported that didn't happen or are outright misinfo in my field are overwhelmingly far right sources, sometimes trickling down into rainbow press (ironicly named so) or more serious center-left outlets.

yucky 5y ago

>Making cringe compilations of the "other side" crates a distorted selective image. Isn't this essentially all Reddit is at this point though? And to a lesser extent, leftwing media and rightwing media do the same. How often will CNN or FOX have a coherent debate with knowledgeable people representing differing sides of an issue?