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Gaming is going to get so interesting with these emerging technologies. I played A.I. dungeon sometime ago and I was amazed at how good it was at making up beli

Gaming is going to get so interesting with these emerging technologies. I played A.I. dungeon sometime ago and I was amazed at how good it was at making up believable stories on the fly. Now imagine joining this with dall-e and you truly have a game which has never existed until now, with it's own story and graphics that you are creating on the spot. Unlike the adventure games like King's quest where everything was pre-programmed, this is truly infinite never-ending game with a unique experience for every single player. Like the guy from the '2 min papers': what a time to be alive. I feel so happy and excited just thinking about the possibilities these techs are going to bring.

mupuff1234 4y ago
I doubt it will beat a curated experience any time soon, but I do see a future where it could assist in creating that curated experience.
- kromem 4y ago
  For the format, AI dungeon already does. When I played with it, I started a quest as a wizard looking for a book. I was able to cast a tracking spell that led me to a giant library. I could have it read the titles of the books on a shelf in front of me. I could pick up any book and open to a random page and have it tell me what was in it. One was about a little half-elf that had a magic flute that broke. I cast a summoning spell to summon the half-elf and fix its flute, after which it happily played a song opening a door to another dimension filled with musical instruments. Give me that level of emergent gameplay in a VR open world, and then just take my money and all my free time, as I'm never leaving. We're simply very, very early on in what's arguably going to be the most transformative tech since the Internet. People predicted back then that the slow network which only offered basic things like email wasn't going to significantly disrupt things like retail. They were only right in that it didn't remain slow and ended up doing a lot more than email. This stuff is getting better way faster than any tech I've seen, and I used to consult for CEOs at Fortune 500s and sit on advisory boards on the topic of emerging tech. I wouldn't be so quick to bet against it. We really haven't even started to see what these models can do in application.
smaudet 4y ago
> I feel so happy and excited just thinking about the possibilities these techs are going to bring. Like what? I should preface by saying I think art is great, I know a lot of artists who struggle to make a living, and it is somewhat heartbreaking to think of all the poor art students who I guess we should pay for their educations and will never have careers now?
- elhesuu 4y ago
  AI generated images are not art. They might use the same medium visual arts do, but they lack a meaningful vision of the world. Of course defining art is a subject in itself, but I think that being afraid of AI replacing artists is comparable to thinking photography would when it was invented.
  - splatzone 4y ago
    This is a good point - all of the DALL-E images are interpretations of human prompts. Human insight and imagination will always be needed to create meaningful, useful prompts
- exolymph 4y ago
  We will still need people with taste to drive the machines and curate output. Also, like, this is how the world works. To cite a hackneyed example, people who worked with horses had to figure something out when new tech displaced them. So will graphic designers, illustrators, et al, if indeed AI is a more competitive option for their services.
  - visarga 4y ago
    Not just graphic designers. In NLP, what used to take years of data labelling, architecture design and model training now is being done zero-shot by GPT-3. Simple automations can be driven by GPT-3 as well. It needs a representation of the screen and it will automate the task described in natural language.
- password54321 4y ago
SleekEagle 4y ago
Yes! So many exciting possibilities in so many industries. Hopefully it won't displace artists though, we'll have to find a way to manage the efficiency of AI with the curation of artists!
- simulate-me 4y ago
  It will definitely displace artists.
  - theptip 4y ago
    On the other hand, it will empower and enrich people that are especially good at creating prompts that generate good content. Who knows if more jobs will be created than destroyed.
kromem 4y ago
Yeah, it's getting to the point I'm starting to see current game design as getting long in the tooth by comparison to what I know is ahead. There's a great tech demo a dev did a year or two ago showcasing GPT-3, speech-to-text, and text-to-speech to have random NPCs in a VR open world respond to anything the guy said if he walked up to them and talked to them. Procedural generation has taken on almost a "dirty word" reputation in the past few years in gaming, but as AI continues to allow for exponential variety at increasingly high quality, it's going to enable some truly mind boggling experiences. Expect to see MMO models (subscription fee and server-oriented) but for single-player instanced worlds dynamically generated around your interactions in them. I can't wait to have a party of friends to go on epic adventures with that are all just AIs I picked up across a world along the way. Less than 20 years away, and possibly even less than 10.
- spunker540 4y ago
  Can you elaborate on why it's a "dirty word"? I see a ton of potential with generative/procedural game elements, esp given all the recent AI breakthroughs. But I am more of a former gamer than current gamer and am surprised to hear it's a dirty word.
  - simulate-me 4y ago
    "Procedural generation" usually means content generated by a human-crafted procedure. Given that a human made the algorithm by hand, its scope is limited and easily becomes repetitive.
    - ackfoobar 4y ago
      In the future it will be "machine dreamed-up" instead of "procedural generated".

mupuff1234 4y ago

I doubt it will beat a curated experience any time soon, but I do see a future where it could assist in creating that curated experience.

kromem 4y ago
For the format, AI dungeon already does. When I played with it, I started a quest as a wizard looking for a book. I was able to cast a tracking spell that led me to a giant library. I could have it read the titles of the books on a shelf in front of me. I could pick up any book and open to a random page and have it tell me what was in it. One was about a little half-elf that had a magic flute that broke. I cast a summoning spell to summon the half-elf and fix its flute, after which it happily played a song opening a door to another dimension filled with musical instruments. Give me that level of emergent gameplay in a VR open world, and then just take my money and all my free time, as I'm never leaving. We're simply very, very early on in what's arguably going to be the most transformative tech since the Internet. People predicted back then that the slow network which only offered basic things like email wasn't going to significantly disrupt things like retail. They were only right in that it didn't remain slow and ended up doing a lot more than email. This stuff is getting better way faster than any tech I've seen, and I used to consult for CEOs at Fortune 500s and sit on advisory boards on the topic of emerging tech. I wouldn't be so quick to bet against it. We really haven't even started to see what these models can do in application.

smaudet 4y ago

> I feel so happy and excited just thinking about the possibilities these techs are going to bring. Like what? I should preface by saying I think art is great, I know a lot of artists who struggle to make a living, and it is somewhat heartbreaking to think of all the poor art students who I guess we should pay for their educations and will never have careers now?

elhesuu 4y ago
AI generated images are not art. They might use the same medium visual arts do, but they lack a meaningful vision of the world. Of course defining art is a subject in itself, but I think that being afraid of AI replacing artists is comparable to thinking photography would when it was invented.
- splatzone 4y ago
  This is a good point - all of the DALL-E images are interpretations of human prompts. Human insight and imagination will always be needed to create meaningful, useful prompts
exolymph 4y ago
We will still need people with taste to drive the machines and curate output. Also, like, this is how the world works. To cite a hackneyed example, people who worked with horses had to figure something out when new tech displaced them. So will graphic designers, illustrators, et al, if indeed AI is a more competitive option for their services.
- visarga 4y ago
  Not just graphic designers. In NLP, what used to take years of data labelling, architecture design and model training now is being done zero-shot by GPT-3. Simple automations can be driven by GPT-3 as well. It needs a representation of the screen and it will automate the task described in natural language.
password54321 4y ago

SleekEagle 4y ago

Yes! So many exciting possibilities in so many industries. Hopefully it won't displace artists though, we'll have to find a way to manage the efficiency of AI with the curation of artists!

simulate-me 4y ago
It will definitely displace artists.
- theptip 4y ago
  On the other hand, it will empower and enrich people that are especially good at creating prompts that generate good content. Who knows if more jobs will be created than destroyed.

kromem 4y ago

Yeah, it's getting to the point I'm starting to see current game design as getting long in the tooth by comparison to what I know is ahead. There's a great tech demo a dev did a year or two ago showcasing GPT-3, speech-to-text, and text-to-speech to have random NPCs in a VR open world respond to anything the guy said if he walked up to them and talked to them. Procedural generation has taken on almost a "dirty word" reputation in the past few years in gaming, but as AI continues to allow for exponential variety at increasingly high quality, it's going to enable some truly mind boggling experiences. Expect to see MMO models (subscription fee and server-oriented) but for single-player instanced worlds dynamically generated around your interactions in them. I can't wait to have a party of friends to go on epic adventures with that are all just AIs I picked up across a world along the way. Less than 20 years away, and possibly even less than 10.

spunker540 4y ago
Can you elaborate on why it's a "dirty word"? I see a ton of potential with generative/procedural game elements, esp given all the recent AI breakthroughs. But I am more of a former gamer than current gamer and am surprised to hear it's a dirty word.
- simulate-me 4y ago
  "Procedural generation" usually means content generated by a human-crafted procedure. Given that a human made the algorithm by hand, its scope is limited and easily becomes repetitive.
  - ackfoobar 4y ago
    In the future it will be "machine dreamed-up" instead of "procedural generated".