6 ms·

I can't hear it. I have Sony-1000XM4 headphones, in a silent room.

by deanc 5y ago

probably_wrong 5y ago
Me neither, but I partially blame the choice of song - not only am I not familiar with it, but the fact that it's an electric guitar means that I cannot differentiate where the guitar's own distortion ends and the watermark begins. (Sennheiser wired headphones listening on my Android phone, in case it matters)
JohnBooty 5y ago
What sort of connection are you using? Wireless, I assume? Which codec? I wonder if your headphones are connected to your source device via a particularly lossy BT codec... (I know they're wireless headphones; but some wireless headphones such as previous Sonys have optional wired connections) The effect is really obvious to me in wired headphones, and my ears are pretty much trash. I struggle mightily to tell the difference between FLAC and good mp3/AAC encodes and struggle to understand people in real life sometimes. The Universal watermark is really egregious to me, particularly in the last few seconds of that "Three Doors Down" clip. It's kind of a fluttering sound in the guitars themselves, not a noise laid over the top. Not shaming anybody if they can't hear it. Like I said, my hearing is pretty bad and I have other physical disabilities.
dfxm12 5y ago
I can hear a difference between the two clips on my laptop speakers with ambient background noise. I couldn't tell you which one is original vs watermarked, but then again, I'm not really familiar with the song to begin with.
camgunz 5y ago
It's most discernible on sustains. On the original they're "smooth". On the watermarked they sound "sparkly" or "fluttery".
- bentcorner 5y ago
  Yeah I think I can hear it in the sustain at 0:08. It's pretty subtle. I could imagine that in pieces with a lot of long sustains it would start to be annoying, especially since you can't unhear it.
  - philjohn 5y ago
    It's easiest to hear on the classical pieces, most notably the Debussy piano pieces during sostenuto sections.
usefulcat 5y ago
I can definitely hear it with headphones, although I'm not sure this sample is the best example because even the "original" clip sounds slightly distorted.
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]

I can't hear it. I have Sony-1000XM4 headphones, in a silent room.

by deanc 5y ago

I can't hear it. I have Sony-1000XM4 headphones, in a silent room.

Me neither, but I partially blame the choice of song - not only am I not familiar with it, but the fact that it's an electric guitar means that I cannot differentiate where the guitar's own distortion ends and the watermark begins. (Sennheiser wired headphones listening on my Android phone, in case it matters)

JohnBooty 5y ago

What sort of connection are you using? Wireless, I assume? Which codec? I wonder if your headphones are connected to your source device via a particularly lossy BT codec... (I know they're wireless headphones; but some wireless headphones such as previous Sonys have optional wired connections) The effect is really obvious to me in wired headphones, and my ears are pretty much trash. I struggle mightily to tell the difference between FLAC and good mp3/AAC encodes and struggle to understand people in real life sometimes. The Universal watermark is really egregious to me, particularly in the last few seconds of that "Three Doors Down" clip. It's kind of a fluttering sound in the guitars themselves, not a noise laid over the top. Not shaming anybody if they can't hear it. Like I said, my hearing is pretty bad and I have other physical disabilities.

dfxm12 5y ago

I can hear a difference between the two clips on my laptop speakers with ambient background noise. I couldn't tell you which one is original vs watermarked, but then again, I'm not really familiar with the song to begin with.

camgunz 5y ago

It's most discernible on sustains. On the original they're "smooth". On the watermarked they sound "sparkly" or "fluttery".

bentcorner 5y ago
Yeah I think I can hear it in the sustain at 0:08. It's pretty subtle. I could imagine that in pieces with a lot of long sustains it would start to be annoying, especially since you can't unhear it.
- philjohn 5y ago
  It's easiest to hear on the classical pieces, most notably the Debussy piano pieces during sostenuto sections.

usefulcat 5y ago

I can definitely hear it with headphones, although I'm not sure this sample is the best example because even the "original" clip sounds slightly distorted.

deleted 5y ago
[deleted]