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If you think either of those computers holds a candle to an M1 Mac mini I don’t know what to tell you.

cestith 5y ago
I very specifically do not think they do. I asked if the parent post, by implying the Mac Mini is an entry level desktop, intended to compare them. Context is fundamental to reading threaded discussions.
- Forgeties79 5y ago
  I’m not following what you are saying if my interpretation was wrong then, and this comment didn’t really clear it up for me. But I guess we can just agree to disagree?
  - BenjiWiebe 5y ago
    I think you might be agreeing. They are saying that the M1 Mac Mini is far more powerful than these low end devices, hence "Apple doesn't make low end devices".
    - cestith 5y ago
      Exactly. Thanks for reading along.
Dylan16807 5y ago
I don't think you have to hold a candle to the M1 Mac mini to qualify as a low end desktop.
- cestith 5y ago
  Of course not, because the M1 Mac Mini is not a low end desktop. That's the whole point multiple people have missed here, and I'm glad you're not one of them.
  - Aaargh20318 5y ago
    > the M1 Mac Mini is not a low end desktop It's literally Apple's entry-level desktop machine. The fact that there are even lower-end options doesn't mean that that it isn't a low-end machine. It is a very large spectrum, from a Raspberry Pi on one end to dual-cpu 2x64-core Threadrippers with gigabytes of RAM on the other. The Mac Mini is certainly on the lower end of this spectrum.
    - cestith 5y ago
      Let's pretend we're Slashdot for a second and use a car analogy. The least expensive part of Alfa Romeo's line or Ferrari's line is not a low-end car. Even Porsche with the Cayenne, much lower-tier than the rest of their stable, is not selling a low-end vehicle. There's a very large spectrum, yes. Apple's least expensive system is maybe near the bottom of middle tier with no options but can be ordered in a configuration pushing $2000. Their most expensive machines are near the top of the middle tier or the bottom of the top tier. I think you meant to mention terabytes of RAM for the high end rather than gigabytes. I think of things like the Talos II as top-end workstations - something that starts around $9k and can easily be configured to close in on $40k for a single desktop workstation. None of this suggests that because Apple doesn't sell a less expensive machine that they cater a product to the low end. They actually, truth be told, sell a less expensive machine that the Mini, because the Air includes a screen, keyboard, pointing device, and battery in its price. If you compare an M1 Air to the low end of laptops and other mid-tier laptops, you'll see it's closer to mid-tier than low-end in pretty much every way. https://secure.raptorcs.com/content/TL2WK2/purchase.html https://secure.raptorcs.com/content/TL2WK2/purchase.html

I very specifically do not think they do. I asked if the parent post, by implying the Mac Mini is an entry level desktop, intended to compare them. Context is fundamental to reading threaded discussions.

Forgeties79 5y ago
I’m not following what you are saying if my interpretation was wrong then, and this comment didn’t really clear it up for me. But I guess we can just agree to disagree?
- BenjiWiebe 5y ago
  I think you might be agreeing. They are saying that the M1 Mac Mini is far more powerful than these low end devices, hence "Apple doesn't make low end devices".
  - cestith 5y ago
    Exactly. Thanks for reading along.

Dylan16807 5y ago

I don't think you have to hold a candle to the M1 Mac mini to qualify as a low end desktop.

cestith 5y ago
Of course not, because the M1 Mac Mini is not a low end desktop. That's the whole point multiple people have missed here, and I'm glad you're not one of them.
- Aaargh20318 5y ago
  > the M1 Mac Mini is not a low end desktop It's literally Apple's entry-level desktop machine. The fact that there are even lower-end options doesn't mean that that it isn't a low-end machine. It is a very large spectrum, from a Raspberry Pi on one end to dual-cpu 2x64-core Threadrippers with gigabytes of RAM on the other. The Mac Mini is certainly on the lower end of this spectrum.
  - cestith 5y ago
    Let's pretend we're Slashdot for a second and use a car analogy. The least expensive part of Alfa Romeo's line or Ferrari's line is not a low-end car. Even Porsche with the Cayenne, much lower-tier than the rest of their stable, is not selling a low-end vehicle. There's a very large spectrum, yes. Apple's least expensive system is maybe near the bottom of middle tier with no options but can be ordered in a configuration pushing $2000. Their most expensive machines are near the top of the middle tier or the bottom of the top tier. I think you meant to mention terabytes of RAM for the high end rather than gigabytes. I think of things like the Talos II as top-end workstations - something that starts around $9k and can easily be configured to close in on $40k for a single desktop workstation. None of this suggests that because Apple doesn't sell a less expensive machine that they cater a product to the low end. They actually, truth be told, sell a less expensive machine that the Mini, because the Air includes a screen, keyboard, pointing device, and battery in its price. If you compare an M1 Air to the low end of laptops and other mid-tier laptops, you'll see it's closer to mid-tier than low-end in pretty much every way. https://secure.raptorcs.com/content/TL2WK2/purchase.html https://secure.raptorcs.com/content/TL2WK2/purchase.html