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I don’t recall anyone being sent to work camps for criticizing government policy in the US recently.
by ch4s3 5y ago
I don’t recall anyone being sent to work camps for criticizing government policy in the US recently.
- d0mine 5y agoMcCarthyism? (it is not 30s like in the article but it is 40s-50s)
- moron4hire 5y agoWeird definition of "recently".
- mdp2021 5y ago"Recently" ends upon uprootal.
- pc86 5y ago70-80 years is not any reasonable definition of "recently," particularly when discussing politics.
- moron4hire 5y agoI honestly have no idea what you are trying to say
- mdp2021 5y agoNo prob, I'll be clearer. Phenomena may be indicated which, in form of episodes, very defined events, may be part of a "past", but the direction, inclination, patterns behind those events may still be lurking much later. (For instance, an expression of fascism ended in the forties, yet fascism may linger, emerge etc.) So, thin latency and occasionalities aside - minor traits and occurrences that just confirm exceptionality -, for the phenomenon to be over it must be uprooted. Unexpressed but latent is "not over": it remains of concern, it may express differently, it may re-explode.
- newsclues 5y agoWork camps are just the extreme of the policies that we have yet to implement. We seem to be lubing the slippery slope towards it though, with political correctness and cancel culture.
- MisterTea 5y ago> Work camps are just the extreme of the policies that we have yet to implement. Yet to? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_labor_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_labor_in_the_United_Stat... > We seem to be lubing the slippery slope towards it though, with political correctness and cancel culture. No we are not.
- JaimeThompson 5y agoWhen do you think cancel culture started?
- newsclues 5y agoProbably it started thousands of years ago, but recently it has certainly changed and become a new and terrible thing with social media.
- peace4all 5y agoThey weren't necessary sent to work camps. Some were just fired and couldn't get hired. Later, in 1950's & 60's, you would be effectively banned from career. Sometimes librarians would paint black their name if they were in references section. Since 1960's victims of these political battles could go to other institutions, probably at less important position. This practice continued all the way till the collapse of the USSR, I heard of such stories in Moscow universities, and in the Academy of Science.
- mullen 5y agoI would not compare anything that happened in the West to what happened in the USSR. I don't recall anyone in the West being sent to a work camp or shot because someone accused them of something they were not.
- adventured 5y agoAlong with what would happen to your family. In the USSR it was often not just yourself, they'd also target your family and its well-being just the same in the name of collective guilt.
- peace4all 5y agoDid I talk about forced labor in this comment above? I said: in later times, such clashes with bureacracy made people lose their entire career.
- mistrial9 5y agomost people reading this have never missed a meal in their lives; a good number of people reading this have never been in a grown-up out-of-money situation where you face deadlines and have no source of money; probably a few people reading this have had to work doing low-skill work, but personal computers have changed access stories. The new version of "labor camp" is a phone that costs you little to nothing but is restricted, tracked and required, and work that is low-skill or away from a center of decision making somehow. Parts of this are happening in the USA out of sight, and elsewhere, and it may be increasing under new economics regarding income and housing. Smug dismissal among those that have never really had parts of it yet, can be expected IMHO
- ch4s3 5y agoThey literally shot politicals in GULAG for stepping out of a line. Nothing in the US even compared.
- at_a_remove 5y agoYou're the first person in the thread to bring up work camps. How easily one can defeat a specter of one's own construction.
- ch4s3 5y agoThat’s 100% what happened to political offenders in the USSR even after GULAG officially closed. Theses scientists may have gotten article 58, but I didn’t dig that deeply. There is no US parallel.