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>The Colombian camming industry alone, which is unregulated but legal How can the industry be unregulated if it's legal? I doubt it has the clout to get itsel

>The Colombian camming industry alone, which is unregulated but legal How can the industry be unregulated if it's legal? I doubt it has the clout to get itself exempted from whatever the normal employment regulations in that country are. To be clear, that was mostly a rhetorical question and I think the author's implied assumption that every industry deserves bespoke regulation by default is asinine. A small industry that's not causing big problems doesn't need legislative attention.

hnhg 5y ago
I interpret it to mean it doesn’t have particular regulations that pertain to it and defaults to industry agnostic ones.
woliveirajr 5y ago
Legal: it's not forbid. To be illegal, there must be a law forbidding it. Unegulated: no one tells how it should be done. "To regulate something" means that the gorv prescribes how some aspect of the activity must be done. If we have infinite possibilities, the norm is to be legal and unregulated.
- denotational 5y ago
  I think GP is arguing that (in a lot of jurisdictions) > the norm is to be legal and unregulated doesn't hold for anything that touches employment; as soon as there is deemed by the courts to be an employer--employee relation, all the existing statutes and case law are applicable, so without carve-outs for this specific type of employment it is automatically regulated. Assuming the above, if the employment is _treated_ as though it is not subject to regulations, despite this not being the case, then presumably the law is being broken somewhere. A sibling comment makes the point that if the legal system is underdeveloped, then the it may not be able to capture all the instances of employment that would otherwise fall under regulation.
  - woliveirajr 5y ago
    My reply was made before the post was edited, so some context was lost in all this thread.
erdos4d 5y ago
I live in Ecuador, so not a Coloumbia expert, but I have insight on this. In short, many latin countries do not have a very well developed legal system, so there probably just isn't any law on this. I don't think there is in EC at least, and prostitution is legal here anyway. Also, it is very common in latin america to hire people as contractors, which removes essentially all employment regulations. Every US company I've ever heard of that hires here exploits this fact. They all just give you money per month as a "contractor" and you get no benefits, health insurance, etc. Its okay though, more than a few of us are running the scam backwards and have multiple front people with all the right pronouns or whatever they want acting like junior developers, when really there is just one senior guy behind the lot. Exploitation goes both ways:)
- ilaksh 5y ago
  Hiring contractors who are really employees is standard practice in the US also.
_fat_santa 5y ago
I feel like that's a loaded sentence. Most businesses are "unregulated but legal", running a grocery store can be considered "unregulated but legal"
- throwaway0a5e 5y ago
  That's exactly what I was getting at. If they're following the catch-all employment laws and not causing big problems specific to their type of business why would anyone care enough to give them special regulatory attention?
- dismantlethesun 5y ago
  Groceries are regulated in most counties. You can’t just start selling expired food, or food without any known provenance. For sex work, some regulation would be a good thing. At they very least requiring condoms when the couple isn’t married (and are untested for STIs) would be a start.

hnhg 5y ago

I interpret it to mean it doesn’t have particular regulations that pertain to it and defaults to industry agnostic ones.

woliveirajr 5y ago

Legal: it's not forbid. To be illegal, there must be a law forbidding it. Unegulated: no one tells how it should be done. "To regulate something" means that the gorv prescribes how some aspect of the activity must be done. If we have infinite possibilities, the norm is to be legal and unregulated.

denotational 5y ago
I think GP is arguing that (in a lot of jurisdictions) > the norm is to be legal and unregulated doesn't hold for anything that touches employment; as soon as there is deemed by the courts to be an employer--employee relation, all the existing statutes and case law are applicable, so without carve-outs for this specific type of employment it is automatically regulated. Assuming the above, if the employment is _treated_ as though it is not subject to regulations, despite this not being the case, then presumably the law is being broken somewhere. A sibling comment makes the point that if the legal system is underdeveloped, then the it may not be able to capture all the instances of employment that would otherwise fall under regulation.
- woliveirajr 5y ago
  My reply was made before the post was edited, so some context was lost in all this thread.

erdos4d 5y ago

I live in Ecuador, so not a Coloumbia expert, but I have insight on this. In short, many latin countries do not have a very well developed legal system, so there probably just isn't any law on this. I don't think there is in EC at least, and prostitution is legal here anyway. Also, it is very common in latin america to hire people as contractors, which removes essentially all employment regulations. Every US company I've ever heard of that hires here exploits this fact. They all just give you money per month as a "contractor" and you get no benefits, health insurance, etc. Its okay though, more than a few of us are running the scam backwards and have multiple front people with all the right pronouns or whatever they want acting like junior developers, when really there is just one senior guy behind the lot. Exploitation goes both ways:)

ilaksh 5y ago
Hiring contractors who are really employees is standard practice in the US also.

_fat_santa 5y ago

I feel like that's a loaded sentence. Most businesses are "unregulated but legal", running a grocery store can be considered "unregulated but legal"

throwaway0a5e 5y ago
That's exactly what I was getting at. If they're following the catch-all employment laws and not causing big problems specific to their type of business why would anyone care enough to give them special regulatory attention?
dismantlethesun 5y ago
Groceries are regulated in most counties. You can’t just start selling expired food, or food without any known provenance. For sex work, some regulation would be a good thing. At they very least requiring condoms when the couple isn’t married (and are untested for STIs) would be a start.