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Hot take: there's a thing called unknown-unknowns and it's what separates people with a formal education in the field from everyone else. Years of experience c

Hot take: there's a thing called unknown-unknowns and it's what separates people with a formal education in the field from everyone else. Years of experience can make you a competent individual in the subject but even elec engineers who do a fair bit of coding aren't as well rounded as someone who has a degree in CompSci / Soft Eng. It's possible to pick up on this if you're 'in the club,' it's impossible to notice it if you're not.

AussieWog93 5y ago
>even elec engineers who do a fair bit of coding aren't as well rounded as someone who has a degree in CompSci / Soft Eng. Goes both ways, mate. I've always been shocked by (even very experienced) CompSci guys' absolute inability to create a simple state machine. Keep shit orthogonal, guys! Same thing, but to a lesser extent, when it comes to timing constraints.
- aunty_helen 5y ago
  Exactly, I did a bit of work in a jet engine test cell as an asside to my main coding duties. The elec eng that I worked under had state machines and labview as far as the eye could see. I wouldn't put myself in a situation where I was relied upon for designing anything. But debugging / technician duties I was fine, hook an oscilloscope up to that engine? Help with thermocouple calibration? No problems. One thing I will mention though, I've always found elec engineers to have a higher work rate that software devs. Always.
listenallyall 5y ago
Lol, world's lamest club. Ask one of those super well-rounded Comp Sci guys to write a join query in SQL or create a pleasant user interface or build a modestly robust CI pipeline and see what happens.
- horns4lyfe 5y ago
  This is a weird generalization, I know lots of CS grads who can do those things and have done them professionally. Are you actually suggesting that CS grads can’t write sql queries due to their education?
  - listenallyall 5y ago
    But you didn't think it was weird that "aunty_helen" above me claimed "the club" of all Comp Sci grads are smarter and more well-rounded than all other practitioners?

AussieWog93 5y ago

>even elec engineers who do a fair bit of coding aren't as well rounded as someone who has a degree in CompSci / Soft Eng. Goes both ways, mate. I've always been shocked by (even very experienced) CompSci guys' absolute inability to create a simple state machine. Keep shit orthogonal, guys! Same thing, but to a lesser extent, when it comes to timing constraints.

aunty_helen 5y ago
Exactly, I did a bit of work in a jet engine test cell as an asside to my main coding duties. The elec eng that I worked under had state machines and labview as far as the eye could see. I wouldn't put myself in a situation where I was relied upon for designing anything. But debugging / technician duties I was fine, hook an oscilloscope up to that engine? Help with thermocouple calibration? No problems. One thing I will mention though, I've always found elec engineers to have a higher work rate that software devs. Always.

listenallyall 5y ago

Lol, world's lamest club. Ask one of those super well-rounded Comp Sci guys to write a join query in SQL or create a pleasant user interface or build a modestly robust CI pipeline and see what happens.

horns4lyfe 5y ago
This is a weird generalization, I know lots of CS grads who can do those things and have done them professionally. Are you actually suggesting that CS grads can’t write sql queries due to their education?
- listenallyall 5y ago
  But you didn't think it was weird that "aunty_helen" above me claimed "the club" of all Comp Sci grads are smarter and more well-rounded than all other practitioners?