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So why then he almost won second time? Can't be more pro-establishment than US president and billionaire. As an US outsider I really wish similar statements we

So why then he almost won second time? Can't be more pro-establishment than US president and billionaire. As an US outsider I really wish similar statements were true but I'll believe it only after elections. There are plenty of US folks who would ie vote for anybody who would keep their guns their own, no matter how ridiculous piece of s*t otherwise. And other polarizing topics where its easy to score some populist points.

adventured 5y ago
You're conflating how you view him and how the voters view him (those that voted for Trump). They don't see him as an insider President. They see him as an outsider non-politician and wrecking ball that is fought by the establishment at every turn.
lazyier 5y ago
Well if you are a US outsider you probably know a lot less about what is like to be in the US. Not understanding why Trump was considered a 'outsider' and 'non-establishment' is just a tip of the iceberg. It is very very easy to understand why people viewed him this way. If people don't know this then they don't know a lot of other things they should. One of the major reasons that Trump won was because he wasn't a professional politician. His competitors had somewhere between 20-50 years of being lying sacks of shit politicians. Almost none of them have any life experience outside of law and running for office. He had 0 years. So it was very easy for him to attack other people on their shitty track records and they couldn't act in kind. Once he had 4 years of being a lying sack of shit then it was easier for them to counter him. His original tactics were much less effective second time around.
- krapp 5y ago
  >Once he had 4 years of being a lying sack of shit then it was easier for them to counter him Anyone who had even a cursory glance at Trump's history, particularly his legal history, already knew he was a lying sack of shit.

adventured 5y ago

You're conflating how you view him and how the voters view him (those that voted for Trump). They don't see him as an insider President. They see him as an outsider non-politician and wrecking ball that is fought by the establishment at every turn.

lazyier 5y ago

Well if you are a US outsider you probably know a lot less about what is like to be in the US. Not understanding why Trump was considered a 'outsider' and 'non-establishment' is just a tip of the iceberg. It is very very easy to understand why people viewed him this way. If people don't know this then they don't know a lot of other things they should. One of the major reasons that Trump won was because he wasn't a professional politician. His competitors had somewhere between 20-50 years of being lying sacks of shit politicians. Almost none of them have any life experience outside of law and running for office. He had 0 years. So it was very easy for him to attack other people on their shitty track records and they couldn't act in kind. Once he had 4 years of being a lying sack of shit then it was easier for them to counter him. His original tactics were much less effective second time around.

krapp 5y ago
>Once he had 4 years of being a lying sack of shit then it was easier for them to counter him Anyone who had even a cursory glance at Trump's history, particularly his legal history, already knew he was a lying sack of shit.