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Is there data that you've read on this to back up your claims? I know there's a push to replace stop lights and signs with traffic circles. But I haven't hear
by mywittyname 5y ago
Is there data that you've read on this to back up your claims?
I know there's a push to replace stop lights and signs with traffic circles. But I haven't heard the same for residential stop signs. I've just read that they prefer to eliminate 4-ways stops because 3-ways are much safer..
- cortesoft 5y agoHow are 3 way stops safer?
- mikepurvis 5y agoBecause the mentality is to stop, look, and wait for it to be clear, rather than stop and immediately just go. Stop and immediately go is particularly a problem for less visible road users like pedestrians and cyclists.
- cortesoft 5y agoNot sure how that would work where I am from… there are so many cars, the one direction that didn’t have the stop sign would be constantly full and the other three directions would just sit there.
- mikepurvis 5y agoAn intersection that busy should just be a traffic light though. All of these other measures are for managing flow at intersections where natural gaps exist and can be leveraged.
- bombcar 5y agoOr the speed reduced - you can handle a lot of traffic at an unsignaled intersection of both roads are slow enough. It’s when there’s a huge speed differential and no signaling that it becomes a problem as traffic gets higher.
- cortesoft 5y agoThese are in residential neighborhoods, and stop signs help prevent people from speeding, as well.
- mywittyname 5y agoNo cross traffic is the thinking, so the most dangerous situation - someone blowing through the stop sign at full speed - is less likely to be an issue, because it can only happen in on the road that's the top of the T, and since bottom of the T traffic always needs to stop, they are more likely to notice traffic that may blow through the sign. If you look at modern American suburban streets, you'll see this idea in action. Most intersections are 3-way vs the grid layout common in older areas.
- Dylan16807 5y agoSo they're asking for a redesign with 3-way intersections, not some weird setup where you remove one stop sign?
- cortesoft 5y agoMaybe I haven't seen 'modern' suburban streets, because all the suburbs I know have 4 way stops
- AuthorizedCust 5y ago> Is there data that you've read on this to back up your claims? There’s plenty of it. If you want to start from the pollution angle, consider the pollution caused by a stop/start rather than steady-speed cruise through the intersection. Enormous difference.
- TulliusCicero 5y ago> Is there data that you've read on this to back up your claims? Many other countries get by with far fewer stop signs and have far fewer traffic fatalities. Not sure if there's a causative relationship there, but it doesn't seem to be hurting.