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Other than on extremely busy highways or similar, not sure why there were laws against this in the first place. But glad they fixed it. I can’t recall ever rid

Other than on extremely busy highways or similar, not sure why there were laws against this in the first place. But glad they fixed it. I can’t recall ever riding a bike and stopping for just a stop sign on residential roads.

lancesells 5y ago
Not the same but I've gotten tickets in NYC for running red lights on a bike. I bet there are a lot of laws in place where bikes are treated exactly the same as automobiles.
- NovemberWhiskey 5y ago
  Really? That's amazing - how does that happen? You just happen to do it right in front of a cop who then flags you down?
  - DaveExeter 5y ago
    >You just happen to do it right in front of a cop You do it in front of a cop who needs to make his quota!
  - lancesells 5y ago
    Kind of. Cops on bicycles looking out for those running red lights.
- twblalock 5y ago
  In California you can get a DUI on a bicycle, because bicycles are defined as "vehicles" in the state vehicle code. It's the stuff of legend in bicycle-heavy college towns like Davis.
themodelplumber 5y ago
I once saw a cyclist scream at another cyclist "you have to stop" when the other cyclist didn't stop at a residential four-way stop sign intersection. IMO there wasn't any kind of safety threat. Just an anecdote but it was pretty disturbing tbh, because the guy seemed absolutely enraged that another cyclist wasn't car-ing hard enough.
- bri3d 5y ago
  "Cyclists flagrantly violating traffic laws" is probably one of the most prevalent anti-bike rhetoric tools used by drivers to justify ill behavior towards cyclists. So, I can absolutely understand a cyclist getting upset with another for flagrantly violating a traffic law. It's unfortunate that this is where this situation has evolved to, but I think it's a lot more understandable (and nuanced) than "cyclist wasn't car-ing hard enough."
  - nobodyandproud 5y ago
    > "Cyclists flagrantly violating traffic laws" is probably one of the most prevalent anti-bike rhetoric tools used by drivers to justify ill behavior towards cyclists. It’s not entirely unjustified. I deal with badly behaved weekend cyclists every week. Like, why are groups of cyclists going in rows of two or three in a narrow service road (40 to 50 mph speed limit). Or going the wrong way in a one-way? Lots of entitled type-As ruining the experience for regular cyclists.
    - Hello71 5y ago
      > Or going the wrong way in a one-way? why should cyclists be required to follow one-way signs? the point of one-way streets is that the street can be narrowed to a single car width; cars are too wide to pass in narrow streets, so a single direction of travel must be shown on both ends, otherwise cars will be stuck in the middle and have to reverse to get out. bicycles don't have this problem. the only justification for one-way cycling is high-traffic streets with danger of collision, but in such high-traffic scenarios I think 99.99% of cyclists will self-organize into reasonably consistent traffic flows, no sign required.
      - nobodyandproud 5y ago
        Are you trolling, to make cyclists look bad? If I drive and hit a cyclist going ignoring the one way, the following things happen: -Emotional trauma for the driver -Death or serious injury for the cyclist -No punishment; or maybe a lawsuit against the cyclist for damages, if I want to be an asshole. Because the cyclist was in the wrong.

lancesells 5y ago

Not the same but I've gotten tickets in NYC for running red lights on a bike. I bet there are a lot of laws in place where bikes are treated exactly the same as automobiles.

NovemberWhiskey 5y ago
Really? That's amazing - how does that happen? You just happen to do it right in front of a cop who then flags you down?
- DaveExeter 5y ago
  >You just happen to do it right in front of a cop You do it in front of a cop who needs to make his quota!
- lancesells 5y ago
  Kind of. Cops on bicycles looking out for those running red lights.
twblalock 5y ago
In California you can get a DUI on a bicycle, because bicycles are defined as "vehicles" in the state vehicle code. It's the stuff of legend in bicycle-heavy college towns like Davis.

themodelplumber 5y ago

I once saw a cyclist scream at another cyclist "you have to stop" when the other cyclist didn't stop at a residential four-way stop sign intersection. IMO there wasn't any kind of safety threat. Just an anecdote but it was pretty disturbing tbh, because the guy seemed absolutely enraged that another cyclist wasn't car-ing hard enough.

bri3d 5y ago
"Cyclists flagrantly violating traffic laws" is probably one of the most prevalent anti-bike rhetoric tools used by drivers to justify ill behavior towards cyclists. So, I can absolutely understand a cyclist getting upset with another for flagrantly violating a traffic law. It's unfortunate that this is where this situation has evolved to, but I think it's a lot more understandable (and nuanced) than "cyclist wasn't car-ing hard enough."
- nobodyandproud 5y ago
  > "Cyclists flagrantly violating traffic laws" is probably one of the most prevalent anti-bike rhetoric tools used by drivers to justify ill behavior towards cyclists. It’s not entirely unjustified. I deal with badly behaved weekend cyclists every week. Like, why are groups of cyclists going in rows of two or three in a narrow service road (40 to 50 mph speed limit). Or going the wrong way in a one-way? Lots of entitled type-As ruining the experience for regular cyclists.
  - Hello71 5y ago
    > Or going the wrong way in a one-way? why should cyclists be required to follow one-way signs? the point of one-way streets is that the street can be narrowed to a single car width; cars are too wide to pass in narrow streets, so a single direction of travel must be shown on both ends, otherwise cars will be stuck in the middle and have to reverse to get out. bicycles don't have this problem. the only justification for one-way cycling is high-traffic streets with danger of collision, but in such high-traffic scenarios I think 99.99% of cyclists will self-organize into reasonably consistent traffic flows, no sign required.
    - nobodyandproud 5y ago
      Are you trolling, to make cyclists look bad? If I drive and hit a cyclist going ignoring the one way, the following things happen: -Emotional trauma for the driver -Death or serious injury for the cyclist -No punishment; or maybe a lawsuit against the cyclist for damages, if I want to be an asshole. Because the cyclist was in the wrong.