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wouldn't be easier just not set internet connection in first place? I don't think TV can hack into secure WiFi network

tjpnz 5y ago
If they did it sounds like a great way for someone doing something nefarious to get off the hook. Some smart TVs are even able to act as wireless access points.
pnutjam 5y ago
Give it an IP with no gateway, or a bad gateway.
scns 5y ago
They have been caught trying to connect to unsecured WiFi before.
- rosndo 5y ago
  I bet you aren’t going to be able to provide a source for this.
  - seanw444 5y ago
    Even if not, it's only a matter of time before it does happen. Not an if.
    - doldols 5y ago
      I suppose the same can be said about your TV turning into a sentient killer robot.
  - emendation 5y ago
    > I bet you aren’t going to be able to provide a source for this. They can't, but I do have this saved https://web.archive.org/web/20191224122714/https://www.reddit.com/r/security/comments/bpjky4/worried_about_your_smart_tv_listening_in_simply/ https://web.archive.org/web/20191224122714/https://www.reddi...
peoplefromibiza 5y ago
they can still hack into open networks around you and monitor the SSIDs to get a sense of your position.
- Markoff 5y ago
  That sounds illegal and awaiting lawsuit to me, device connecting to unsecured network by itself without my knowledge doing there whoever knows. Imagine my neighbor has unsecured WiFi network set for himself, I'm pretty sure he could call police on anyone connected to his network abusing his connection just because it's not locked. By this logic you can steal unlocked car with key in engine or unlocked bike and that's what these TV would be doing. You would be probably excused if TV done by itself, but it would land the brand lot of negative publicity and you could try to reimburse defense lawyer expenses on them. They would probably argue you agreed with terms of service when first launching TV, so don't do that if you want dumb TV.
- lsaferite 5y ago
  Amazon Sidewalk is what worries me for the long term.
ben_w 5y ago
That would be illegal. However people here sometimes report that they connect to any nearby open wifi network even if you don’t explicitly connect them to your own.
contravariant 5y ago
Fair, though you might want to make some exceptions at some point. Or prevent it from randomly connecting to an unsecured wifi.

If they did it sounds like a great way for someone doing something nefarious to get off the hook. Some smart TVs are even able to act as wireless access points.

pnutjam 5y ago

Give it an IP with no gateway, or a bad gateway.

scns 5y ago

They have been caught trying to connect to unsecured WiFi before.

rosndo 5y ago
I bet you aren’t going to be able to provide a source for this.
- seanw444 5y ago
  Even if not, it's only a matter of time before it does happen. Not an if.
  - doldols 5y ago
    I suppose the same can be said about your TV turning into a sentient killer robot.
- emendation 5y ago
  > I bet you aren’t going to be able to provide a source for this. They can't, but I do have this saved https://web.archive.org/web/20191224122714/https://www.reddit.com/r/security/comments/bpjky4/worried_about_your_smart_tv_listening_in_simply/ https://web.archive.org/web/20191224122714/https://www.reddi...

peoplefromibiza 5y ago

they can still hack into open networks around you and monitor the SSIDs to get a sense of your position.

Markoff 5y ago
That sounds illegal and awaiting lawsuit to me, device connecting to unsecured network by itself without my knowledge doing there whoever knows. Imagine my neighbor has unsecured WiFi network set for himself, I'm pretty sure he could call police on anyone connected to his network abusing his connection just because it's not locked. By this logic you can steal unlocked car with key in engine or unlocked bike and that's what these TV would be doing. You would be probably excused if TV done by itself, but it would land the brand lot of negative publicity and you could try to reimburse defense lawyer expenses on them. They would probably argue you agreed with terms of service when first launching TV, so don't do that if you want dumb TV.
lsaferite 5y ago
Amazon Sidewalk is what worries me for the long term.

ben_w 5y ago

That would be illegal. However people here sometimes report that they connect to any nearby open wifi network even if you don’t explicitly connect them to your own.

contravariant 5y ago

Fair, though you might want to make some exceptions at some point. Or prevent it from randomly connecting to an unsecured wifi.