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I don't get the urge for when a community has been stumped studying something for multiple years and you've just heard about it 5 minutes ago to chime in and as

I don't get the urge for when a community has been stumped studying something for multiple years and you've just heard about it 5 minutes ago to chime in and ask "I wonder if they've thought of this yet?". Like, how likely do you really think it is that the reason they haven't figured it out is because it simply never occurred to them to investigate your reason?

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mensetmanusman 5y ago
Group think is real, I have definitely entered consulting gigs in a new topic and asked questions that haven’t been asked before by a group working on something for a long time…
john_the_writer 5y ago
Not sure on that.. I've been in a tech meeting with 10 devs (about 150 years exp) trying to solve a problem for days. The founder of the company (a non dev, but smart guy) walked in at one point and said. What if we just did X instead. We all collectively slapped our heads and tada solved it.
devoutsalsa 5y ago
Someone's gotta guess. A fresh pair of eyes can bring insight.
- kaybe 5y ago
  That's what you have students for.
sokoloff 5y ago
It seems quite possible for someone with a different background might have an insight missed by hundreds of people with very similar academic backgrounds. In particular when the test population is so different from the expected living population and experts have no explanation, some kind of non-linear thinking is likely going to be needed.
Dylan16807 5y ago
> "I wonder if they've thought of this yet?" The comment doesn't say that. > never occurred to them to investigate your reason? The comment doesn't say that.
krisoft 5y ago
> I don't get the urge I don’t get what you don’t get. Engaging one’s brain is the best way to understand the shape of a problem. And yes, that involves asking “basic” questions. This ciding you do here assumes bad faith from the person asking the question. Some people ask questions because they want to know the answer, not to demonstrate how much better they are than a whole field or whatever you are assuming here. > Like, how likely do you really think it is that the reason they haven't figured it out Who cares how likely is it? Are we only allowed to ask questions which have not been studied before? If it has been studied before: great! It is much more likely one can just read answers in their paper.

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mensetmanusman 5y ago

Group think is real, I have definitely entered consulting gigs in a new topic and asked questions that haven’t been asked before by a group working on something for a long time…

john_the_writer 5y ago

Not sure on that.. I've been in a tech meeting with 10 devs (about 150 years exp) trying to solve a problem for days. The founder of the company (a non dev, but smart guy) walked in at one point and said. What if we just did X instead. We all collectively slapped our heads and tada solved it.

devoutsalsa 5y ago

Someone's gotta guess. A fresh pair of eyes can bring insight.

kaybe 5y ago
That's what you have students for.

sokoloff 5y ago

It seems quite possible for someone with a different background might have an insight missed by hundreds of people with very similar academic backgrounds. In particular when the test population is so different from the expected living population and experts have no explanation, some kind of non-linear thinking is likely going to be needed.

Dylan16807 5y ago

> "I wonder if they've thought of this yet?" The comment doesn't say that. > never occurred to them to investigate your reason? The comment doesn't say that.

krisoft 5y ago

> I don't get the urge I don’t get what you don’t get. Engaging one’s brain is the best way to understand the shape of a problem. And yes, that involves asking “basic” questions. This ciding you do here assumes bad faith from the person asking the question. Some people ask questions because they want to know the answer, not to demonstrate how much better they are than a whole field or whatever you are assuming here. > Like, how likely do you really think it is that the reason they haven't figured it out Who cares how likely is it? Are we only allowed to ask questions which have not been studied before? If it has been studied before: great! It is much more likely one can just read answers in their paper.