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What was the problem exactly? Jack Dorsey: 'I'm partially to blame' for helping create a centralized internet. Censorship is the first thing that comes to my

What was the problem exactly? Jack Dorsey: 'I'm partially to blame' for helping create a centralized internet. Censorship is the first thing that comes to my mind. Source: https://twitter.com/jack/status/1510314535671922689 How has it improved now that Jack is gone? It hasn't. Maybe a shake-up like this is overdue. We'll see!

ilaksh 5y ago
It's literally impossible for a system run by a single company to not be centralized. Dorsey acknowledging that or not does not change that nor would having some other owner. It's actually possible (although not easy by any stretch) for us to build a decentralized Twitter that would not be controlled by a company for profit and would be more censorship resistant. It probably will not happen because of ignorance and political manipulations rather than hard technical limitations.
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- Apocryphon 5y ago
  Isn't that what Mastodon, or various projects using Mastodon, are trying to do anyway? It's not such a thing can't be built, it's just it's unlikely for such a project to gain mass adoption.
  - ilaksh 5y ago
    Right, just like Bitcoin, Ethereum, IPFS, RSS, HTTP -- open protocols have no chance of significant adoption.
    - Apocryphon 5y ago
      I'm talking about social media specifically here. Good luck with trying to get a blockchain-powered project up with mass adoption in that space. Maybe you can include a messenger feature running Matrix in it, too.
- IX-103 5y ago
  If only there was some sort of "user network" which could just be some sort of distributed posting service where a rotating group of companies would host the posts (more than one host for both fault tolerance and avoiding a single point vulnerability). People could post to discussion groups about the news (or "newsgroups" for short). Perhaps it would be so attractive that ISPs would advertise access to portions of this posting service and provide support for its hosting. Something like that seems like it would be simple enough we could have had it decades ago. If only someone had thought of it then...
  - Apocryphon 5y ago
    If only someone had thought of a way to monetize it so that Google would not purchase it and later run roughshod over it before letting it fall into disuse.
lupire 5y ago
That just Jack shilling his new Bitcoin company.

ilaksh 5y ago

It's literally impossible for a system run by a single company to not be centralized. Dorsey acknowledging that or not does not change that nor would having some other owner. It's actually possible (although not easy by any stretch) for us to build a decentralized Twitter that would not be controlled by a company for profit and would be more censorship resistant. It probably will not happen because of ignorance and political manipulations rather than hard technical limitations.

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Apocryphon 5y ago
Isn't that what Mastodon, or various projects using Mastodon, are trying to do anyway? It's not such a thing can't be built, it's just it's unlikely for such a project to gain mass adoption.
- ilaksh 5y ago
  Right, just like Bitcoin, Ethereum, IPFS, RSS, HTTP -- open protocols have no chance of significant adoption.
  - Apocryphon 5y ago
    I'm talking about social media specifically here. Good luck with trying to get a blockchain-powered project up with mass adoption in that space. Maybe you can include a messenger feature running Matrix in it, too.
IX-103 5y ago
If only there was some sort of "user network" which could just be some sort of distributed posting service where a rotating group of companies would host the posts (more than one host for both fault tolerance and avoiding a single point vulnerability). People could post to discussion groups about the news (or "newsgroups" for short). Perhaps it would be so attractive that ISPs would advertise access to portions of this posting service and provide support for its hosting. Something like that seems like it would be simple enough we could have had it decades ago. If only someone had thought of it then...
- Apocryphon 5y ago
  If only someone had thought of a way to monetize it so that Google would not purchase it and later run roughshod over it before letting it fall into disuse.

lupire 5y ago

That just Jack shilling his new Bitcoin company.