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Would Elon reinstate Jack to set up a Steve Jobs style comeback story?

by memish 5y ago

meatsauce 5y ago
Never happen. Jack was part of the problem.
- Apocryphon 5y ago
  Reinstate Dick. Having a comedian in charge again would be funny.
  - LegitShady 5y ago
    "Let me introduce your new CEO, a clone made by crossing Joe Rogan and Sergei Brin."
  - reducesuffering 5y ago
    He doesn't seem very funny. "Me-first capitalists who think you can separate society from business are going to be the first people lined up against the wall and shot in the revolution. I'll happily provide video commentary." — Dick Costolo (He deleted it from Twitter, who'da thunk)
    - Apocryphon 5y ago
      Arthur Fleck wasn't very funny either, but the situation of giving a standup comic great power is.
- cinntaile 5y ago
  What was the problem exactly and how has it improved now that Jack is gone?
  - cinntaile 5y ago
    I have received plenty of reasons, but none from meatsauce so we unfortunately don't know what he meant.
  - rtkwe 5y ago
    The problem is how to make money on Twitter without alienating users with too many ads or monetization of posting. I have zero desire to ever spend money on anything Twitter like, I enjoy the feed I've curated but if it starts costing me money I'll find another way to get it.
    - deleted 5y ago
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    - iso1631 5y ago
      You wouldn't pay $1/year, you'd instead spend hours trying to find another way?
  - djfobbz 5y ago
    What was the problem exactly? Jack Dorsey: 'I'm partially to blame' for helping create a centralized internet. Censorship is the first thing that comes to my mind. Source: https://twitter.com/jack/status/1510314535671922689 How has it improved now that Jack is gone? It hasn't. Maybe a shake-up like this is overdue. We'll see!
    - ilaksh 5y ago
      It's literally impossible for a system run by a single company to not be centralized. Dorsey acknowledging that or not does not change that nor would having some other owner. It's actually possible (although not easy by any stretch) for us to build a decentralized Twitter that would not be controlled by a company for profit and would be more censorship resistant. It probably will not happen because of ignorance and political manipulations rather than hard technical limitations.
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      - Apocryphon 5y ago
        Isn't that what Mastodon, or various projects using Mastodon, are trying to do anyway? It's not such a thing can't be built, it's just it's unlikely for such a project to gain mass adoption.
        ilaksh 5y ago
        Right, just like Bitcoin, Ethereum, IPFS, RSS, HTTP -- open protocols have no chance of significant adoption.
        Apocryphon 5y ago
        I'm talking about social media specifically here. Good luck with trying to get a blockchain-powered project up with mass adoption in that space. Maybe you can include a messenger feature running Matrix in it, too.
  - lr4444lr 5y ago
    The company's laggard growth, and never issuing a dividend because he wasn't responsive to making the company profitable, and couldn't grow the user base for quite a while.
- willmadden 5y ago
  Jack losing control of Twitter was a bigger problem.
adolph 5y ago
Evan Williams would be the comeback story. Medium would play the role of NeXT whose core technology shapes the way forward.
- Kye 5y ago
  Twitter already has this with Revue.
  - adolph 5y ago
    Sure and Apple had A/UX. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A/UX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A/UX
sulam 5y ago
Jack wasn't fired.
- netik 5y ago
  That's funny, because many employees recall him being shown the door early in the company's history. Nick Bilton's book covers this.
  - sulam 5y ago
    Sure, he was semi-fired that time (he kept his seat on the board). But this is not the proximate departure.
adam_arthur 5y ago
Jack never struck me as very competent like many of the other tech founders. More like somebody at the right place and time
- texasbigdata 5y ago
  Explain square.
  - ohyoutravel 5y ago
    “More like somebody at the right place and time.”
    - colordrops 5y ago
      For two companies? Seems like too hand wavy of an explanation.
      - texasbigdata 5y ago
        To argue against myself, and I can't cite this, Zuckerberg allegedly referred to Twitter as a clown car that drove into a diamond mine.
        vimy 5y ago
        When / where did he say this? At one of Facebook’s weekly townhalls?
        texasbigdata 5y ago
        I think I heard it on the This Week in Startups podcast this week (pre- takeover offer). Edit: literally first google result for Zuckerberg clown car https://www.google.com/search?q=Zuckerberg+clown+car https://www.google.com/search?q=Zuckerberg+clown+car
asd88 5y ago
Jack already had his Steve Jobs comeback moment in 2015.
wonderwonder 5y ago
Jack left because he was done, he resigned. He is now pretty much 100% BTC and decentralization.
- behnamoh 5y ago
  Maybe because he realized what a monster he created
bumblebritches5 5y ago

Would Elon reinstate Jack to set up a Steve Jobs style comeback story?

by memish 5y ago

Would Elon reinstate Jack to set up a Steve Jobs style comeback story?

meatsauce 5y ago

Never happen. Jack was part of the problem.

Apocryphon 5y ago
Reinstate Dick. Having a comedian in charge again would be funny.
- LegitShady 5y ago
  "Let me introduce your new CEO, a clone made by crossing Joe Rogan and Sergei Brin."
- reducesuffering 5y ago
  He doesn't seem very funny. "Me-first capitalists who think you can separate society from business are going to be the first people lined up against the wall and shot in the revolution. I'll happily provide video commentary." — Dick Costolo (He deleted it from Twitter, who'da thunk)
  - Apocryphon 5y ago
    Arthur Fleck wasn't very funny either, but the situation of giving a standup comic great power is.
cinntaile 5y ago
What was the problem exactly and how has it improved now that Jack is gone?
- cinntaile 5y ago
  I have received plenty of reasons, but none from meatsauce so we unfortunately don't know what he meant.
- rtkwe 5y ago
  The problem is how to make money on Twitter without alienating users with too many ads or monetization of posting. I have zero desire to ever spend money on anything Twitter like, I enjoy the feed I've curated but if it starts costing me money I'll find another way to get it.
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
  - iso1631 5y ago
    You wouldn't pay $1/year, you'd instead spend hours trying to find another way?
- djfobbz 5y ago
  What was the problem exactly? Jack Dorsey: 'I'm partially to blame' for helping create a centralized internet. Censorship is the first thing that comes to my mind. Source: https://twitter.com/jack/status/1510314535671922689 How has it improved now that Jack is gone? It hasn't. Maybe a shake-up like this is overdue. We'll see!
  - ilaksh 5y ago
    It's literally impossible for a system run by a single company to not be centralized. Dorsey acknowledging that or not does not change that nor would having some other owner. It's actually possible (although not easy by any stretch) for us to build a decentralized Twitter that would not be controlled by a company for profit and would be more censorship resistant. It probably will not happen because of ignorance and political manipulations rather than hard technical limitations.
    - deleted 5y ago
      [deleted]
    - Apocryphon 5y ago
      Isn't that what Mastodon, or various projects using Mastodon, are trying to do anyway? It's not such a thing can't be built, it's just it's unlikely for such a project to gain mass adoption.
      - ilaksh 5y ago
        Right, just like Bitcoin, Ethereum, IPFS, RSS, HTTP -- open protocols have no chance of significant adoption.
        Apocryphon 5y ago
        I'm talking about social media specifically here. Good luck with trying to get a blockchain-powered project up with mass adoption in that space. Maybe you can include a messenger feature running Matrix in it, too.
- lr4444lr 5y ago
  The company's laggard growth, and never issuing a dividend because he wasn't responsive to making the company profitable, and couldn't grow the user base for quite a while.
willmadden 5y ago
Jack losing control of Twitter was a bigger problem.

adolph 5y ago

Evan Williams would be the comeback story. Medium would play the role of NeXT whose core technology shapes the way forward.

Kye 5y ago
Twitter already has this with Revue.
- adolph 5y ago
  Sure and Apple had A/UX. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A/UX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A/UX

sulam 5y ago

Jack wasn't fired.

netik 5y ago
That's funny, because many employees recall him being shown the door early in the company's history. Nick Bilton's book covers this.
- sulam 5y ago
  Sure, he was semi-fired that time (he kept his seat on the board). But this is not the proximate departure.

adam_arthur 5y ago

Jack never struck me as very competent like many of the other tech founders. More like somebody at the right place and time

texasbigdata 5y ago
Explain square.
- ohyoutravel 5y ago
  “More like somebody at the right place and time.”
  - colordrops 5y ago
    For two companies? Seems like too hand wavy of an explanation.
    - texasbigdata 5y ago
      To argue against myself, and I can't cite this, Zuckerberg allegedly referred to Twitter as a clown car that drove into a diamond mine.
      - vimy 5y ago
        When / where did he say this? At one of Facebook’s weekly townhalls?
        texasbigdata 5y ago
        I think I heard it on the This Week in Startups podcast this week (pre- takeover offer). Edit: literally first google result for Zuckerberg clown car https://www.google.com/search?q=Zuckerberg+clown+car https://www.google.com/search?q=Zuckerberg+clown+car

asd88 5y ago

Jack already had his Steve Jobs comeback moment in 2015.

wonderwonder 5y ago

Jack left because he was done, he resigned. He is now pretty much 100% BTC and decentralization.

behnamoh 5y ago
Maybe because he realized what a monster he created

bumblebritches5 5y ago