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All cloud providers I've tested will reject proxy cards, which are assigned from prepaid card pools. More businesses seem to be doing this as of late. It's rath
by igetspam 5y ago
All cloud providers I've tested will reject proxy cards, which are assigned from prepaid card pools. More businesses seem to be doing this as of late. It's rather unfortunate, since proxy cards are a fantastic fraud prevention device.
- qwertox 5y agoYou can use proxy cards in your day to day life. If you hand your classic card details to a company like Oracle or AWS, your card isn't exposed to the same threats as when you use it to buy something at the gas station.
- bawolff 5y agoAWS overcharging my card due to their unclear pricing structure seems like a much more realistic & costly threat than someone putting a skimmer in a gas station
- ungamed 5y agoEspecially as one is a 'once off' use, the other is billing on demand.
- igetspam 5y agoThat's a great world to live in but it's not true. I have caught three fraud attempts from cards only used on Amazon.
- ajxs 5y agoFor what it's worth, I've been able to use a prepaid card with <WELL-KNOWN LARGE CLOUD PROVIDER> for a while now without any problems. Maybe they're not all created equal.
- kaladin-jasnah 5y agoI second and confirm this. It is true, but my <CLOUD PROVIDER> has been cracking down on it more more recently.
- vanviegen 5y agoJust curious: why are you and GP unwilling to mention the providers' names?
- vasco 5y agoSounds more mysterious, gets people going.
- ajxs 5y agoI figured it might be a little imprudent to explicitly mention what I'm getting away with, and with whom. Especially in a public forum where many of this company's employees may very well see it. I'd be shocked if they took action, admittedly. Still, I feel like it's good policy never to explicitly invite misfortune upon yourself.
- xmodem 5y agoI've not had a problem with this with <LEGACY DEDICATED SERVER PROVIDER>.
- leohonexus 5y agoI’m willing to bet it’s AWS with 90% certainty - they seem to have very lenient card policies compared to other cloud platforms I’ve worked with. (GCP, on the other hand, won’t even accept debit card - only credit)
- piotrkaminski 5y ago> GCP, on the other hand, won’t even accept debit card - only credit That's not true in my experience: I've been paying my GCP bill with debit cards from three different banks for years. (They were branded as VISA or Mastercard, mind you, but still debit cards.)
- sofixa 5y agoGCP in the EU accept debit cards, same as AWS, Azure, Oracle, Scaleway, OVH. They'd be crazy not to ( credit cards are rare here), but still.
- igetspam 5y agoI had one that worked a couple years ago but it expired. I couldn't add a new one.
- smnrchrds 5y agoConsidering how many people on the internet talk about using these cards for evading contractual obligations (e.g. cancelling the card instead of going through the contract cancellation process and paying the termination fee, if any), it's surprising their acceptance has lasted as long as it has.
- kadoban 5y agoCancellation fees are ridiculous nonsense in 99% of cases anyway. I have no sympathy.
- smnrchrds 5y agoThey are ridiculous. Nonetheless, they are legal obligations.
- dataflow 5y agoI would be with you if so many corporations didn't already exploit customers with the whole "yeah, tough luck, whatcha gonna do about it? have fun suing us" attitude. You can't blame customers for taking the same approach when that's already corporate America's MO. And don't forget that on top of exploitative practices, corporations frequently game the legal process too... like forcing customers to sign away their rights to sue in court, and all that.
- mastazi 5y agoThey are usually not, illegal clauses are still illegal even if you clicked an "accept" button. Edit: one of many examples https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/06/02/automatic-renewals-ftc-subscriptions/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/06/02/automatic...
- stainforth 5y agoNonetheless, a prepaid card is legal tender.
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- celdon25 5y ago> All cloud providers I've tested will reject proxy cards, which are assigned from prepaid card pools. More businesses seem to be doing this as of late. It's rather unfortunate, since proxy cards are a fantastic fraud prevention device. You do realize that letting people anonymously host whatever they want from reputable ASNs is a bad thing, right?
- jwandborg 5y agoI would say that the invention of the concept of "reputable ASNs" is the root cause.
- mccorrinall 5y agoHow dare you to send me a mail from an IP range which was used for port scanning three years ago?