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Looking forward to see how you'll imprison the German government for continuing to purchase oil from Russia through shell companies like Gazprombank.

relativeadv 5y ago
lol, this comment is too much.
- samhw 5y ago
  Well, he's not wrong, really.
- mayankkaizen 5y ago
  May be a bit extreme comment but not completely nonsensical. It is raising somewhat valid point. Currently Russian regime is not that much different from NK regime. Both are under sanctions. In fact, Russia is more dangerous than NK in current situation. Germany needs fuel and it is essentially financing Russia. The only difference between NK and Russia is that nobody is dependent on NK for anything. This guy helped NK and went to jail. Germany giving money to Russia (for fuel), it's all ok.
  - Brian_K_White 5y ago
    Germany needs those btu's. And the German authorities are invested with the authority and responsibility to make exactly that sort of decision. Did this guy need to help NK for anything remotely like that sort of responsibility?
    - linspace 5y ago
      > Did this guy need to help NK for anything remotely like that sort of responsibility? This is what keeps me wondering. I guess that a guy with a doctorate from Caltech and in the current technological context could be making a lot of money legally. From outside it looks like he is some kind of crypto idealist.
kelnos 5y ago
I think you don't understand how sanctions work.
- postsantum 5y ago
  I don't think you understand the worldview of the average american
  - some_random 5y ago
    How is that relevant in the current discussion?
stickfigure 5y ago
At the moment that is still legal. The German government may decide to change that in the future.
- SkyBelow 5y ago
  >At the moment that is still legal. Is the discussion on what is legal or on what is moral to legally enforce? I had read the parent discussion as being the latter.
  - function_seven 5y ago
    Both. But if an action is both immoral and still legal, it is then wrong to jail people for it. Fix the law to match the morality.
watwut 5y ago
Germany is not breaking the law there. They are preventing the law from happening, which is something different entirely. Also, USA does not have jurisdiction over Germany. Nor should have.

relativeadv 5y ago

lol, this comment is too much.

samhw 5y ago
Well, he's not wrong, really.
mayankkaizen 5y ago
May be a bit extreme comment but not completely nonsensical. It is raising somewhat valid point. Currently Russian regime is not that much different from NK regime. Both are under sanctions. In fact, Russia is more dangerous than NK in current situation. Germany needs fuel and it is essentially financing Russia. The only difference between NK and Russia is that nobody is dependent on NK for anything. This guy helped NK and went to jail. Germany giving money to Russia (for fuel), it's all ok.
- Brian_K_White 5y ago
  Germany needs those btu's. And the German authorities are invested with the authority and responsibility to make exactly that sort of decision. Did this guy need to help NK for anything remotely like that sort of responsibility?
  - linspace 5y ago
    > Did this guy need to help NK for anything remotely like that sort of responsibility? This is what keeps me wondering. I guess that a guy with a doctorate from Caltech and in the current technological context could be making a lot of money legally. From outside it looks like he is some kind of crypto idealist.

kelnos 5y ago

I think you don't understand how sanctions work.

postsantum 5y ago
I don't think you understand the worldview of the average american
- some_random 5y ago
  How is that relevant in the current discussion?

stickfigure 5y ago

At the moment that is still legal. The German government may decide to change that in the future.

SkyBelow 5y ago
>At the moment that is still legal. Is the discussion on what is legal or on what is moral to legally enforce? I had read the parent discussion as being the latter.
- function_seven 5y ago
  Both. But if an action is both immoral and still legal, it is then wrong to jail people for it. Fix the law to match the morality.

watwut 5y ago

Germany is not breaking the law there. They are preventing the law from happening, which is something different entirely. Also, USA does not have jurisdiction over Germany. Nor should have.