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What if the news about NK is not entirely unbiased? (I have no proof either way, just asking the question) Edit: People are taking my comment wrong. I am askin

What if the news about NK is not entirely unbiased? (I have no proof either way, just asking the question) Edit: People are taking my comment wrong. I am asking this because there are a lot of assumptions people have, I know almost nothing about NK, and the comment I replied to seemed somewhat irrational, a little reactionary and certainly vindictive.

jcrash 5y ago
There are many different sources of information about what goes on in NK, including people who have escaped from there.
- xtian 5y ago
  True: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkUMZS-ZegM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkUMZS-ZegM
outworlder 5y ago
No news sources are entirely unbiased, even when they make an effort to be. Regardless, we know a lot from NK from multiple sources. The main reason we don't know more is because of how closed that dictatorship is.
- rat9988 5y ago
  Or how closed we are to them? There is no media unbiased about them in the west. But I do know you can travel to NK and see for yourself. That said, it is easier to know things about Portugal than NK. They are definitely doing something to hide information. I'm just trying to say that any image based on the media from non friendly country is bound to be wrong. No matter how much different sources you have.
  - mythopedia 5y ago
    > But I do know you can travel to NK and see for yourself. My understanding is that tourists in North Korea only see what the government of North Korea wants them to see. Here's one (admittedly potentially biased) source that claims as much: "Tourist travel to North Korea is only possible as part of a guided tour. Independent travel is not permitted. If you are not prepared to accept severe limitations on your movements, behaviour, and freedom of expression, you should not travel to North Korea." [0] [0] https://wikitravel.org/en/North_Korea https://wikitravel.org/en/North_Korea
  - watwut 5y ago
    We are not closed to them. The relationship in terms of how much each country sees inside the other is highly asymmetric here.
  - outworlder 5y ago
    > But I do know you can travel to NK and see for yourself. No you cannot. You'll be chaperoned everywhere and only shown things they want you to see.
  - sterlind 5y ago
    you can travel to NK, but you might end up like Otto Warmbier and come home a couple years later braindead. (he stole as a propaganda poster a souvenir, but brain death after a year of brutal torture seems.. extreme.) you're also not allowed to travel without a guide. also, given the videos I've seen taken by tourists when they've been able to sneak away from their minders, NK does not look very happy.
samhw 5y ago
There's a difference between "media companies may have conflicts of interest or ideological bents" and "every single proposition ever stated by a journalist is specifically false".
- skrtskrt 5y ago
  it is true that a lot of mainstream media outlets that people consider "probably biased but overall trustworthy" just regurgitate talking points from the State Department, law enforcement, etc as fact. One only needs to read the CIA's Wikipedia page or the CIA's own website to understand how embarrassing of a failure of thought and journalism it is to trust these institutions

jcrash 5y ago

There are many different sources of information about what goes on in NK, including people who have escaped from there.

xtian 5y ago
True: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkUMZS-ZegM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkUMZS-ZegM

outworlder 5y ago

No news sources are entirely unbiased, even when they make an effort to be. Regardless, we know a lot from NK from multiple sources. The main reason we don't know more is because of how closed that dictatorship is.

rat9988 5y ago
Or how closed we are to them? There is no media unbiased about them in the west. But I do know you can travel to NK and see for yourself. That said, it is easier to know things about Portugal than NK. They are definitely doing something to hide information. I'm just trying to say that any image based on the media from non friendly country is bound to be wrong. No matter how much different sources you have.
- mythopedia 5y ago
  > But I do know you can travel to NK and see for yourself. My understanding is that tourists in North Korea only see what the government of North Korea wants them to see. Here's one (admittedly potentially biased) source that claims as much: "Tourist travel to North Korea is only possible as part of a guided tour. Independent travel is not permitted. If you are not prepared to accept severe limitations on your movements, behaviour, and freedom of expression, you should not travel to North Korea." [0] [0] https://wikitravel.org/en/North_Korea https://wikitravel.org/en/North_Korea
- watwut 5y ago
  We are not closed to them. The relationship in terms of how much each country sees inside the other is highly asymmetric here.
- outworlder 5y ago
  > But I do know you can travel to NK and see for yourself. No you cannot. You'll be chaperoned everywhere and only shown things they want you to see.
- sterlind 5y ago
  you can travel to NK, but you might end up like Otto Warmbier and come home a couple years later braindead. (he stole as a propaganda poster a souvenir, but brain death after a year of brutal torture seems.. extreme.) you're also not allowed to travel without a guide. also, given the videos I've seen taken by tourists when they've been able to sneak away from their minders, NK does not look very happy.

samhw 5y ago

There's a difference between "media companies may have conflicts of interest or ideological bents" and "every single proposition ever stated by a journalist is specifically false".

skrtskrt 5y ago
it is true that a lot of mainstream media outlets that people consider "probably biased but overall trustworthy" just regurgitate talking points from the State Department, law enforcement, etc as fact. One only needs to read the CIA's Wikipedia page or the CIA's own website to understand how embarrassing of a failure of thought and journalism it is to trust these institutions