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I think Confluence is a genuinely good product. Its nice to see that even Atlassian struggle with day to day sysadmin of Atlassian tools

karmakaze 5y ago
A lot of people look down on Jira. My experience was that Confluence was much worse. It turns writing a couple technical notes into a publishing journey with missteps and failures along the way.
- VTimofeenko 5y ago
  For me Confluence dramatically improved in experience when I learned that it's possible to write files locally using $FAVORITE_EDITOR in confluencewiki format (or markdown if you don't care about macros) and post them through API.
  - clhodapp 5y ago
    Can you share anything more about your technique? As far as I know, Confluence hasn't supported a markup format natively for several years. I've found some tricks to allow me to author stuff in Markdown but it seems to come with a lot of limitations which ultimately mean that I have to start using the web editor as soon as I want to start collaborating with others.
    - DocTomoe 5y ago
      In Confluence Editor, under the Macro "Plus" button, you should find an entry called "Markup" pretty far up the list, which accepts "Confluence Wiki" Markup (which is just Markdown + Macros). This works for both on-premise as well as cloud instances.
    - VTimofeenko 5y ago
      I wrote a tool that automates the posting part[1]. Unfortunately I could not solve the collaboration problem either. Setting the body of the page overwrites it. I did see some examples of editing HTML through similar approach but never tried it myself. [1]: https://github.com/VTimofeenko/confluence_poster https://github.com/VTimofeenko/confluence_poster
RexM 5y ago
I read somewhere recently that confluence is write-only because search is so bad nobody will ever find what your write. I haven’t used it in years, but that seems accurate. I could never find anything unless I knew exactly how it was worded in what I’m looking for.
- djbusby 5y ago
  Putting markdown text into SQLite with FTS5 works amazingly well for search. How come they couldn't just bolt that in?
- wink 5y ago
  Yes, it's actually so bad that you wonder what part of the picture we're missing.
- xen0 5y ago
  My experience with Confluence's search was that it's a mistake the press Enter. That is, the pop-up results that appear as I typed where significantly better than the actual "search results" page.
  - junon 5y ago
    I also vaguely remember this being the case. Confluence always felt so bloated to me.
philliphaydon 5y ago
When they first acquired confluence it was great. Now I can’t stand it. Is so slow now. So clunky.

karmakaze 5y ago

A lot of people look down on Jira. My experience was that Confluence was much worse. It turns writing a couple technical notes into a publishing journey with missteps and failures along the way.

VTimofeenko 5y ago
For me Confluence dramatically improved in experience when I learned that it's possible to write files locally using $FAVORITE_EDITOR in confluencewiki format (or markdown if you don't care about macros) and post them through API.
- clhodapp 5y ago
  Can you share anything more about your technique? As far as I know, Confluence hasn't supported a markup format natively for several years. I've found some tricks to allow me to author stuff in Markdown but it seems to come with a lot of limitations which ultimately mean that I have to start using the web editor as soon as I want to start collaborating with others.
  - DocTomoe 5y ago
    In Confluence Editor, under the Macro "Plus" button, you should find an entry called "Markup" pretty far up the list, which accepts "Confluence Wiki" Markup (which is just Markdown + Macros). This works for both on-premise as well as cloud instances.
  - VTimofeenko 5y ago
    I wrote a tool that automates the posting part[1]. Unfortunately I could not solve the collaboration problem either. Setting the body of the page overwrites it. I did see some examples of editing HTML through similar approach but never tried it myself. [1]: https://github.com/VTimofeenko/confluence_poster https://github.com/VTimofeenko/confluence_poster

RexM 5y ago

I read somewhere recently that confluence is write-only because search is so bad nobody will ever find what your write. I haven’t used it in years, but that seems accurate. I could never find anything unless I knew exactly how it was worded in what I’m looking for.

djbusby 5y ago
Putting markdown text into SQLite with FTS5 works amazingly well for search. How come they couldn't just bolt that in?
wink 5y ago
Yes, it's actually so bad that you wonder what part of the picture we're missing.
xen0 5y ago
My experience with Confluence's search was that it's a mistake the press Enter. That is, the pop-up results that appear as I typed where significantly better than the actual "search results" page.
- junon 5y ago
  I also vaguely remember this being the case. Confluence always felt so bloated to me.

philliphaydon 5y ago

When they first acquired confluence it was great. Now I can’t stand it. Is so slow now. So clunky.