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No. It's not. In some instances people were in the wrong place at the wrong time, or treated poorly based on pretty minor actions, but even at it's height Guant

No. It's not. In some instances people were in the wrong place at the wrong time, or treated poorly based on pretty minor actions, but even at it's height Guantanamo housed < 1000 people. If we were sweeping up any an all Islamists I'd expect a good deal more than that. Also, the U.S. didn't 'get away with' Guantanamo. It was a big news cycle and the prison is nearly shut down now, and operates with much more consideration for the prisoners, giving them access to counsel and repatriating then when able.

blueflow 5y ago
> housed < 1000 people Normal numbers are zero. > Also, the U.S. didn't 'get away with' Guantanamo Who ended up in prison for it?
- BobbyJo 5y ago
  > Normal numbers are zero. Name a government that hasn't abused it's power at one point. Not sure what your definition of normal is in this instance. > Who ended up in prison for it? I'd be ok if China simply stopped what they are doing without sending anyone to prison. To answer your question though, no one. It's hard to prosecute individuals for an organization's failings without dismantling the organization, which is the US military in this case. The best we can hope for is fixes to prevent such abuses inches future, which we got. Many Americans, myself included, wish some people were put away, and also sincerely hope that the perpetrators of abuses in Xinjiang find similar ends.
  - blueflow 5y ago
    I'd be okay if the US simply stopped invading some countries or toppling random governments every 5 years. Many people of the rest of the world wish for the responsible US politicians to be put away. I hope the American perpetrators find similar ends. Its an awful kind of mockery to see the US displaying themselves as the hand of justice in the Xinjiang situation. I wish countries like the Netherlands or Switzerland would do it instead, their hands are much, much cleaner. This is the same kind of mockery as having Saudi Arabia on the UN panel for womens rights.
    - BobbyJo 5y ago
      > I'd be okay if the US simply stopped invading some countries or toppling random governments every 5 years. Me too, not sure what that has to do with anything. > Many people of the rest of the world wish for the responsible US politicians to be put away. I hope the American perpetrators find similar ends. ok? Not sure where that fits in though. > Its an awful kind of mockery to see the US displaying themselves as the hand of justice in the Xinjiang situation. I wish countries like the Netherlands or Switzerland would do it instead, their hands are much, much cleaner. If you consider doing nothing at all about bad things happening clean, then sure. Also, your diction leads me to believe you are Chinese yourself, so maybe a little bias? > This is the same kind of mockery as having Saudi Arabia on the UN panel for womens rights. The US doesn't have over a million people in a concentration camp right now, so I don't see the similarity.
      - tablespoon 5y ago
        >> I'd be okay if the US simply stopped invading some countries or toppling random governments every 5 years. > Me too, not sure what that has to do with anything. Nothing about the topic at hand. It's a distraction, an OT axe to grind, or both.
      - blueflow 5y ago
        BobbyJo 5y ago
        Ooof, if you're German, then, by your own logic, you don't really have room to speak on the atrocities of other countries... no?
        blueflow 5y ago
        Its also racist to make people held accountable for their ancestors. This is what the Nazis did to the Jews, and the US teached germany the hard way that it is not right. How comes you didn't learn that lesson? Germany got the Nürnberger Trials, the US (clarification: politicians) was never held accountable for anything.

blueflow 5y ago

> housed < 1000 people Normal numbers are zero. > Also, the U.S. didn't 'get away with' Guantanamo Who ended up in prison for it?

BobbyJo 5y ago
> Normal numbers are zero. Name a government that hasn't abused it's power at one point. Not sure what your definition of normal is in this instance. > Who ended up in prison for it? I'd be ok if China simply stopped what they are doing without sending anyone to prison. To answer your question though, no one. It's hard to prosecute individuals for an organization's failings without dismantling the organization, which is the US military in this case. The best we can hope for is fixes to prevent such abuses inches future, which we got. Many Americans, myself included, wish some people were put away, and also sincerely hope that the perpetrators of abuses in Xinjiang find similar ends.
- blueflow 5y ago
  I'd be okay if the US simply stopped invading some countries or toppling random governments every 5 years. Many people of the rest of the world wish for the responsible US politicians to be put away. I hope the American perpetrators find similar ends. Its an awful kind of mockery to see the US displaying themselves as the hand of justice in the Xinjiang situation. I wish countries like the Netherlands or Switzerland would do it instead, their hands are much, much cleaner. This is the same kind of mockery as having Saudi Arabia on the UN panel for womens rights.
  - BobbyJo 5y ago
    > I'd be okay if the US simply stopped invading some countries or toppling random governments every 5 years. Me too, not sure what that has to do with anything. > Many people of the rest of the world wish for the responsible US politicians to be put away. I hope the American perpetrators find similar ends. ok? Not sure where that fits in though. > Its an awful kind of mockery to see the US displaying themselves as the hand of justice in the Xinjiang situation. I wish countries like the Netherlands or Switzerland would do it instead, their hands are much, much cleaner. If you consider doing nothing at all about bad things happening clean, then sure. Also, your diction leads me to believe you are Chinese yourself, so maybe a little bias? > This is the same kind of mockery as having Saudi Arabia on the UN panel for womens rights. The US doesn't have over a million people in a concentration camp right now, so I don't see the similarity.
    - tablespoon 5y ago
      >> I'd be okay if the US simply stopped invading some countries or toppling random governments every 5 years. > Me too, not sure what that has to do with anything. Nothing about the topic at hand. It's a distraction, an OT axe to grind, or both.
    - blueflow 5y ago
      - BobbyJo 5y ago
        Ooof, if you're German, then, by your own logic, you don't really have room to speak on the atrocities of other countries... no?
        blueflow 5y ago
        Its also racist to make people held accountable for their ancestors. This is what the Nazis did to the Jews, and the US teached germany the hard way that it is not right. How comes you didn't learn that lesson? Germany got the Nürnberger Trials, the US (clarification: politicians) was never held accountable for anything.