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Seriously, why doesn't Russia join NATO?

Symbiote 5y ago
NATO membership is only open to democracies who respect other sovereign countries, and they must be invited by the existing members.
- jesusofnazarath 5y ago
- dfadsadsf 5y ago
  LOL. Does it include Turkey and US currently occupying sizable chunks of Syria? Also calling Turkey democracy is questionable at best considering current regime and multiple military governments before whole Turkey was in Nato.
- lamp987 5y ago
  How is Turkey a member then? How was fascist Spain a member? And it's all lead by a country that respects sovereignity the least of all on the entire planet, lmao.
AnimalMuppet 5y ago
Seriously? Because Russia is the main aggressor that NATO is trying to defend against. The chickens don't invite the fox into the hen house.
- s1artibartfast 5y ago
  Alternatively, it would be more problematic for the US to invade and bomb Russian allies if Russia were a fellow NATO member
rascul 5y ago
> Vladimir Putin wanted Russia to join Nato but did not want his country to have to go through the usual application process and stand in line “with a lot of countries that don’t matter”, according to a former secretary general of the transatlantic alliance. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/04/ex-nato-head-says-putin-wanted-to-join-alliance-early-on-in-his-rule https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/04/ex-nato-head-s...
s1artibartfast 5y ago
Russia would love to join if it could, and there was some talk about it in the 90's when Russia was drawing closer to the west. There are several reasons why it didn't happen. NATO has requirements for membership, and Russia is too corrupt and undemocratic to meet them ( this is also why full membership for Ukraine was always in the future). NATOs main purpose is to project American power and influence foreign policy. Russia being in NATO would make this more difficult.
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > Russia would love to join if it could, and there was some talk about it in the 90's when Russia was drawing closer to the west. There are several reasons why it didn't happen. The main reason is that the reason Russia wanted to join changed from cooperative regional security (which was at least plausibly the motivation early on) to “NATO works by consensus not majoritarianism, so if we can get in we can screw everything up“, which it firmly was when Putin demanded immediate admission without the onboarding other ex-Warsaw Pact states were getting. > NATO has requirements for membership To be fair, NATO decides those on a case-by-case basis, not like they are common binding rules (I mean, there are the latter, too, but that's not usually the main issue.)
spyder 5y ago
Here is a quite detailed article about the Russia-NATO relationship: https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/russia-could-have-joined-nato-but-why-didn-t-they-do-it-55561 https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/russia-could-have-joined-n... also on Wikipedia too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia–NATO_relations#Suggestions_of_Russia_joining_NATO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia–NATO_relations#Suggesti...

NATO membership is only open to democracies who respect other sovereign countries, and they must be invited by the existing members.

jesusofnazarath 5y ago
dfadsadsf 5y ago
LOL. Does it include Turkey and US currently occupying sizable chunks of Syria? Also calling Turkey democracy is questionable at best considering current regime and multiple military governments before whole Turkey was in Nato.
lamp987 5y ago
How is Turkey a member then? How was fascist Spain a member? And it's all lead by a country that respects sovereignity the least of all on the entire planet, lmao.

AnimalMuppet 5y ago

Seriously? Because Russia is the main aggressor that NATO is trying to defend against. The chickens don't invite the fox into the hen house.

s1artibartfast 5y ago
Alternatively, it would be more problematic for the US to invade and bomb Russian allies if Russia were a fellow NATO member

rascul 5y ago

> Vladimir Putin wanted Russia to join Nato but did not want his country to have to go through the usual application process and stand in line “with a lot of countries that don’t matter”, according to a former secretary general of the transatlantic alliance. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/04/ex-nato-head-says-putin-wanted-to-join-alliance-early-on-in-his-rule https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/04/ex-nato-head-s...

s1artibartfast 5y ago

Russia would love to join if it could, and there was some talk about it in the 90's when Russia was drawing closer to the west. There are several reasons why it didn't happen. NATO has requirements for membership, and Russia is too corrupt and undemocratic to meet them ( this is also why full membership for Ukraine was always in the future). NATOs main purpose is to project American power and influence foreign policy. Russia being in NATO would make this more difficult.

dragonwriter 5y ago
> Russia would love to join if it could, and there was some talk about it in the 90's when Russia was drawing closer to the west. There are several reasons why it didn't happen. The main reason is that the reason Russia wanted to join changed from cooperative regional security (which was at least plausibly the motivation early on) to “NATO works by consensus not majoritarianism, so if we can get in we can screw everything up“, which it firmly was when Putin demanded immediate admission without the onboarding other ex-Warsaw Pact states were getting. > NATO has requirements for membership To be fair, NATO decides those on a case-by-case basis, not like they are common binding rules (I mean, there are the latter, too, but that's not usually the main issue.)

spyder 5y ago

Here is a quite detailed article about the Russia-NATO relationship: https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/russia-could-have-joined-nato-but-why-didn-t-they-do-it-55561 https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/russia-could-have-joined-n... also on Wikipedia too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia–NATO_relations#Suggestions_of_Russia_joining_NATO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia–NATO_relations#Suggesti...