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The things not really mentioned about Eero, tailored for this crowd. - There is no SNMP. - There is no decent network monitoring at all: on the app, or availa

The things not really mentioned about Eero, tailored for this crowd. - There is no SNMP. - There is no decent network monitoring at all: on the app, or available via the API, if you were to use one of the unofficial API libraries off of GitHub. At all. I've put significant effort into this and ultimately routed the Eero through a dedicated VLAN on my network switch, and have a SPAN port up to do traffic monitoring and analysis via a Linux box. - The (iOS) app is pretty flakey when it comes to syncing the state of the router vs what you see in the app. Eg. you'll have a device paused in the app, but it's not actually paused on the router and vice versa. You end up having to toggle it a couple times until the settings are synced properly. - The CEO/founder and engineers hang out in a certain subreddit and are communicative about the underlying technology. I get a strong sense they care deeply about their product -- with the caveat that they are entirely focused on the non-technical consumer market. I still use Eero, because it's the best I've found for dealing with kids and Internet use. If I didn't have kids, I'd just do OPNsense on a Protectli mini-computer.

cameronh90 5y ago
I use Eero Pro, don't use any of the content filtering or anything, and would still say it's the best WiFi experience I've ever had, far better than the Unifi network it replaced. However, I do wish it had battery and 4G backup. I know that sounds pretty niche, but nowadays with regular consumer security cameras, alarm systems, smoke detectors, thermostats, etc. all running on WiFi with built-in battery backups, it would be very nice if I could still connect to them all if the power or internet drops out. Interestingly my Ring alarm has battery and 4G backup, and that's also owned by Amazon. Supposedly there's a Ring Alarm Pro Base Station which is a sort of Eero/Ring hybrid device, but that doesn't exist in the UK, and is equivalent to the non-Pro Eero anyway. I might add a Firewalla Gold and a UPS, but it's a lot of hassle and negates some of the value of Eero.
- runjake 5y ago
  Eero isn't the best I've ever had, but I partly work on enterprise wi-fi for a living, so I'm biased. I think wi-fi is about on par with the Amplifi HD (maybe a little better). To jump off your point, if people want zero hassles and zero insight into traffic, an Eero Secure subscription is worthwhile, otherwise you're better served by using NextDNS.io or something reputable. NextDNS is dirt cheap, and if set up right, provides you with per-device traffic logs.
  - cameronh90 5y ago
    I also set up enterprise WiFi at work, but at home I just want WiFi that works with as little involvement on my end as possible. Traffic logs would be wasted on me because I'd never look at them.
m-p-3 5y ago
I received an Eero 6 (free loan) from my ISP and it seems decent so far. Howevet, the lack of webUI, being forced to do the configuration entirely through a mobile app, and being forced to authenticate through an Amazon account to do anything in there rubbed me the wrong way. It's good enough for the average consumer.
- runjake 5y ago
  Yep, and 100% of their focus is the average consumer. Eg. they are not going to add SNMP, no matter how many times you ask. This isn't a slam about CEO Nick and co., it's just not their market focus.
  - m-p-3 5y ago
    A webUI IMO seems a reasonable feature though. My mom doesn't have a smartphone, only a laptop. She'd have to return it since she would have no way of configuring it.
conradev 5y ago
Isn't it the case that you can use Eeros in bridge mode? Like, you could still use OPNsense and Eeros together, if you wanted. https://support.eero.com/hc/en-us/articles/207621056-How-do-I-set-up-my-eero-if-I-want-to-keep-my-existing-router- https://support.eero.com/hc/en-us/articles/207621056-How-do-...
- dsissitka 5y ago
  You could but eero doesn't support manual channel selection and automatic channel selection is one of the things that gets disabled in bridge mode: https://support.eero.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000825206-What-advanced-features-do-I-lose-access-to-if-I-put-my-eeros-into-bridge-mode- https://support.eero.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000825206-What...
joezydeco 5y ago
The (iOS) app is pretty flakey when it comes to syncing the state of the router vs what you see in the app Part of the problem is that there are three different ways to pause a user (by pausing an individual MAC, pausing a group that the MAC lives in, or the group's bedtime going active). And they overlap in some unknown pattern, which the app can't track well.

cameronh90 5y ago

I use Eero Pro, don't use any of the content filtering or anything, and would still say it's the best WiFi experience I've ever had, far better than the Unifi network it replaced. However, I do wish it had battery and 4G backup. I know that sounds pretty niche, but nowadays with regular consumer security cameras, alarm systems, smoke detectors, thermostats, etc. all running on WiFi with built-in battery backups, it would be very nice if I could still connect to them all if the power or internet drops out. Interestingly my Ring alarm has battery and 4G backup, and that's also owned by Amazon. Supposedly there's a Ring Alarm Pro Base Station which is a sort of Eero/Ring hybrid device, but that doesn't exist in the UK, and is equivalent to the non-Pro Eero anyway. I might add a Firewalla Gold and a UPS, but it's a lot of hassle and negates some of the value of Eero.

runjake 5y ago
Eero isn't the best I've ever had, but I partly work on enterprise wi-fi for a living, so I'm biased. I think wi-fi is about on par with the Amplifi HD (maybe a little better). To jump off your point, if people want zero hassles and zero insight into traffic, an Eero Secure subscription is worthwhile, otherwise you're better served by using NextDNS.io or something reputable. NextDNS is dirt cheap, and if set up right, provides you with per-device traffic logs.
- cameronh90 5y ago
  I also set up enterprise WiFi at work, but at home I just want WiFi that works with as little involvement on my end as possible. Traffic logs would be wasted on me because I'd never look at them.

m-p-3 5y ago

I received an Eero 6 (free loan) from my ISP and it seems decent so far. Howevet, the lack of webUI, being forced to do the configuration entirely through a mobile app, and being forced to authenticate through an Amazon account to do anything in there rubbed me the wrong way. It's good enough for the average consumer.

runjake 5y ago
Yep, and 100% of their focus is the average consumer. Eg. they are not going to add SNMP, no matter how many times you ask. This isn't a slam about CEO Nick and co., it's just not their market focus.
- m-p-3 5y ago
  A webUI IMO seems a reasonable feature though. My mom doesn't have a smartphone, only a laptop. She'd have to return it since she would have no way of configuring it.

conradev 5y ago

Isn't it the case that you can use Eeros in bridge mode? Like, you could still use OPNsense and Eeros together, if you wanted. https://support.eero.com/hc/en-us/articles/207621056-How-do-I-set-up-my-eero-if-I-want-to-keep-my-existing-router- https://support.eero.com/hc/en-us/articles/207621056-How-do-...

dsissitka 5y ago
You could but eero doesn't support manual channel selection and automatic channel selection is one of the things that gets disabled in bridge mode: https://support.eero.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000825206-What-advanced-features-do-I-lose-access-to-if-I-put-my-eeros-into-bridge-mode- https://support.eero.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000825206-What...

joezydeco 5y ago

The (iOS) app is pretty flakey when it comes to syncing the state of the router vs what you see in the app Part of the problem is that there are three different ways to pause a user (by pausing an individual MAC, pausing a group that the MAC lives in, or the group's bedtime going active). And they overlap in some unknown pattern, which the app can't track well.