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>I think it's possible with the right ui/incentives I want that, but for the masses of tech-illiterate Average Joes out there, it's tough to compete against th

>I think it's possible with the right ui/incentives I want that, but for the masses of tech-illiterate Average Joes out there, it's tough to compete against the sheer convenience of "tap next to trust big tech with all your private data and sync it all in the cloud" that you get when you unbox your iPhone/Android. And for most people their phone is their primary computing device now so their lives are tied to those ecosystems and we've been conditioned for over a decade now to just give our private data to the phones' ecosystems without asking questions because everting is so convenient and ignorance is bliss. Trying to get average consumers off the big-tech ecosystems at this point is like trying to unplug people from the matrix. It's nearly impossible, unless some new EU-style regulations break up these monopolies first so that third party alternatives can compete on feature parity.

2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago
> tap next to trust big tech with all your private data and sync it all in the cloud Consumer NAS management should be way easier. Why can't I tap my phone to my NAS to pair and then go anywhere in the world with a network connection?
- ChuckNorris89 5y ago
  Because 1) most consumers have no idea what a NAS is, and even when they do, consumers have been conditioned that all their data is automagically beamed to the Apple/Google cloud at any and all time there's an internet connection without any user involvement beyond entering their ID when they unbox their phone for the first time, so it's impossible for a third party device or service to compete with this level of out of the box integration and convenience 2) NAS devices aren't made by Apple and Google so NAS integration into these ecosystems is a second class experience at best, and Apple and Google will never make NAS devices as they're incentivized to get you to pay for their cloud storage subscriptions for your data. Plus, as a a cherry on top, this way they can silently data-mine you as well. Basically the industry is moving, or we can argue that it has moved already, towards subscriptions, where you never really own your music/movies/data but have access to it as long as you pay your monthly/yearly fee, because this is so much more lucrative for big-tech than getting you to buy commodity HW like a NAS and physically owning your data.
adventured 5y ago
EU-style regulations will decrease, dramatically, the likelihood of Average Joe doing it themselves: those regulations will improve privacy, data control, et al. requirements for big tech. Average Joe will feel even safer in using big tech.

2OEH8eoCRo0 5y ago

> tap next to trust big tech with all your private data and sync it all in the cloud Consumer NAS management should be way easier. Why can't I tap my phone to my NAS to pair and then go anywhere in the world with a network connection?

ChuckNorris89 5y ago
Because 1) most consumers have no idea what a NAS is, and even when they do, consumers have been conditioned that all their data is automagically beamed to the Apple/Google cloud at any and all time there's an internet connection without any user involvement beyond entering their ID when they unbox their phone for the first time, so it's impossible for a third party device or service to compete with this level of out of the box integration and convenience 2) NAS devices aren't made by Apple and Google so NAS integration into these ecosystems is a second class experience at best, and Apple and Google will never make NAS devices as they're incentivized to get you to pay for their cloud storage subscriptions for your data. Plus, as a a cherry on top, this way they can silently data-mine you as well. Basically the industry is moving, or we can argue that it has moved already, towards subscriptions, where you never really own your music/movies/data but have access to it as long as you pay your monthly/yearly fee, because this is so much more lucrative for big-tech than getting you to buy commodity HW like a NAS and physically owning your data.

adventured 5y ago

EU-style regulations will decrease, dramatically, the likelihood of Average Joe doing it themselves: those regulations will improve privacy, data control, et al. requirements for big tech. Average Joe will feel even safer in using big tech.