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1984, here we come. I'm glad the UK got out of the EU because of things like this.

manuelabeledo 5y ago
You mean this UK? MET police uses facial recognition. > https://www.wired.co.uk/article/met-police-facial-recognition-new https://www.wired.co.uk/article/met-police-facial-recognitio... The UK has more CCTV cameras per capita than any other country, bar China. > https://www.yahoo.com/video/britain-more-surveillance-cameras-per-151641361.html https://www.yahoo.com/video/britain-more-surveillance-camera... UK parliament sneaks in new live facial recognition rules. > https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2021/08/23/uk-government-accused-of-sneaking-through-new-live-facial-recognition-rules/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2021/08/23/uk-go...
- belter 5y ago
  They are on the next phase already. Take your hands of the keyboard right now, we sent agents to prevently arrest you: "Crime prediction software 'adopted by 14 UK police forces'" https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47118229 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47118229 "The dangerous rise of policing by algorithm" https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/science-and-technology/the-dangerous-rise-of-policing-by-algorithm https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/science-and-technology/th...
- jodrellblank 5y ago
  You mean this UK? "Two UK Broadband ISPs Trial New Internet Snooping System" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26430266 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26430266 "UK’s secret, ongoing mass surveillance rigorously frisked by watchdog (arstechnica.co.uk) 2016" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12060832 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12060832 "UK Home Secretary considering removing right to anonymity on social media (independent.co.uk)" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28898249 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28898249 "UK Home Secretary says encryption on messaging services is unacceptable" (reuters.com) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13959953 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13959953 "Bill that curtails ability to protest in England and Wales passes second reading" - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/16/bill-that-curtails-ability-to-protest-in-uk-passes-its-second-reading https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/16/bill-that-cu...
- elric 5y ago
  Let's not forget the Forward Intelligence Teams (FIT). They've been actively spying on protestors (of any creed) for well over a decade, with the goal of trying to identify as many of them as possible. Even during perfectly peaceful protests of seemingly little import.
- soundnote 5y ago
  UK police also collect "non-crime hate incidents" and give these records of heresy against the rainbows to people who ask for your criminal record. Mind you: Incidents. These are mere accusations that haven't even been verified, and as the very name implies, there has not even been an accusation of crime. It's just a record of non-criminal wrongthink.
  - manuelabeledo 5y ago
    I don’t think I understand. Police everywhere report on misdemeanour, and reporting itself is perhaps police forces’ main job.
    - soundnote 5y ago
      They are explicitly gathering reports and accusations on things that are not in themselves punishable offenses. They just record accusations of non-crime and give it out when people's criminal record is asked for to damage them.
      - manuelabeledo 5y ago
        This sounds highly unlikely and I cannot find a reputable source for it. Could you provide one?
- vixen99 5y ago
  Point taken but policy reversal by a national government is a good deal more within the realms of possibility than a successful campaign to get the EU to do the same. Not likely at all in the UK at present but that could change if a faction within a national party decides to push anti-surveillance measures as a priority in some future general election. The difficulty is getting a consensus within the electorate to understand what's at stake.
LightG 5y ago
Was that sarcasm? Or were you serious? Either way, that was legit the funniest thing I've read on here today. As in "you cannot be serious" funny, not haha funny.
- shrimp_emoji 5y ago
  Yeah. My perception's been that the UK is boldly spearheading Western Orwellianism.[0][1] 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encryption_ban_proposal_in_the_United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encryption_ban_proposal_in_the... 1: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10668157/Teenager-jailed-six-weeks-racially-abusing-Marcus-Rashford-Italy-penalty-miss.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10668157/Teenager-j...

You mean this UK? MET police uses facial recognition. > https://www.wired.co.uk/article/met-police-facial-recognition-new https://www.wired.co.uk/article/met-police-facial-recognitio... The UK has more CCTV cameras per capita than any other country, bar China. > https://www.yahoo.com/video/britain-more-surveillance-cameras-per-151641361.html https://www.yahoo.com/video/britain-more-surveillance-camera... UK parliament sneaks in new live facial recognition rules. > https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2021/08/23/uk-government-accused-of-sneaking-through-new-live-facial-recognition-rules/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2021/08/23/uk-go...

belter 5y ago
They are on the next phase already. Take your hands of the keyboard right now, we sent agents to prevently arrest you: "Crime prediction software 'adopted by 14 UK police forces'" https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47118229 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47118229 "The dangerous rise of policing by algorithm" https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/science-and-technology/the-dangerous-rise-of-policing-by-algorithm https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/science-and-technology/th...
jodrellblank 5y ago
You mean this UK? "Two UK Broadband ISPs Trial New Internet Snooping System" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26430266 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26430266 "UK’s secret, ongoing mass surveillance rigorously frisked by watchdog (arstechnica.co.uk) 2016" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12060832 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12060832 "UK Home Secretary considering removing right to anonymity on social media (independent.co.uk)" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28898249 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28898249 "UK Home Secretary says encryption on messaging services is unacceptable" (reuters.com) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13959953 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13959953 "Bill that curtails ability to protest in England and Wales passes second reading" - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/16/bill-that-curtails-ability-to-protest-in-uk-passes-its-second-reading https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/16/bill-that-cu...
elric 5y ago
Let's not forget the Forward Intelligence Teams (FIT). They've been actively spying on protestors (of any creed) for well over a decade, with the goal of trying to identify as many of them as possible. Even during perfectly peaceful protests of seemingly little import.
soundnote 5y ago
UK police also collect "non-crime hate incidents" and give these records of heresy against the rainbows to people who ask for your criminal record. Mind you: Incidents. These are mere accusations that haven't even been verified, and as the very name implies, there has not even been an accusation of crime. It's just a record of non-criminal wrongthink.
- manuelabeledo 5y ago
  I don’t think I understand. Police everywhere report on misdemeanour, and reporting itself is perhaps police forces’ main job.
  - soundnote 5y ago
    They are explicitly gathering reports and accusations on things that are not in themselves punishable offenses. They just record accusations of non-crime and give it out when people's criminal record is asked for to damage them.
    - manuelabeledo 5y ago
      This sounds highly unlikely and I cannot find a reputable source for it. Could you provide one?
vixen99 5y ago
Point taken but policy reversal by a national government is a good deal more within the realms of possibility than a successful campaign to get the EU to do the same. Not likely at all in the UK at present but that could change if a faction within a national party decides to push anti-surveillance measures as a priority in some future general election. The difficulty is getting a consensus within the electorate to understand what's at stake.

LightG 5y ago

Was that sarcasm? Or were you serious? Either way, that was legit the funniest thing I've read on here today. As in "you cannot be serious" funny, not haha funny.

shrimp_emoji 5y ago
Yeah. My perception's been that the UK is boldly spearheading Western Orwellianism.[0][1] 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encryption_ban_proposal_in_the_United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encryption_ban_proposal_in_the... 1: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10668157/Teenager-jailed-six-weeks-racially-abusing-Marcus-Rashford-Italy-penalty-miss.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10668157/Teenager-j...