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I've been using emacs-w3m (which uses w3m under the hood) for many years. It is sooo nice to have a web browser well integrated in to an editor as powerful as

I've been using emacs-w3m (which uses w3m under the hood) for many years. It is sooo nice to have a web browser well integrated in to an editor as powerful as emacs.

jmclnx 5y ago
I forgot about this. I just fired up Eww in my emacs session and ycombinator renders great
- eadmund 5y ago
  Eww & emacs-w3m are different though. Both are great in different ways.
frogcoder 5y ago
Just curious, what are the advantages using w3m instead of eww?
- m4lvin 5y ago
  One example: When I open this page here, in eww all comments have the same left margin and I have no idea what is a reply to what, but with emacs-w3m the nesting structure is visible.
  - tomxor 5y ago
    Strange, I'm trying out standalone w3m right now and also don't get nesting. Maybe the emacs version is different. I'm guessing HN must indent with CSS (which w3m pointed out it does not attempt to support) even though the comments are in a table.
    - lambdaba 5y ago
      Actually, HN indents with a spacer gif, in true early 00's fashion :) <img src="s.gif" height="1" width="66">
      - tomxor 5y ago
        hah, I love it.
abzug 5y ago
You can also have WebKit embedded in Emacs.
- pmoriarty 5y ago
  I don't want images, though. I just want plain text. I also don't want javascript, as it opens me up to all sorts of javascript vulnerabilities and tracking. emacs-w3m is just text, no images, and javascript, which is exactly what I want.
neilv 5y ago
Agreed. About 20 years ago, I used the Emacs w3m support to let me browse HTML programming language books while coding on a 48 MB RAM laptop. https://www.neilvandyke.org/w3mnav/ https://www.neilvandyke.org/w3mnav/ https://www.neilvandyke.org/quack/ https://www.neilvandyke.org/quack/ https://www.neilvandyke.org/linux-thinkpad-560e/ https://www.neilvandyke.org/linux-thinkpad-560e/ Getting docs into an efficient "IDE" is still nice. Just yesterday, I was using nov.el to occasionally reference Blandy et al.'s Rust book in Emacs, faster than I could the PDF or in a dedicated ebook reader program.
ArtWomb 5y ago
emacs-w3m is exactly what I'm searching for. Regex to mine useful data from web sites has become a necessary evil. Ideal use case would be running webircgateway. Private self hosted irc chan for remote team. Accessed via emacs shell as we share code ;)

I've been using emacs-w3m (which uses w3m under the hood) for many years. It is sooo nice to have a web browser well integrated in to an editor as powerful as emacs.

jmclnx 5y ago

I forgot about this. I just fired up Eww in my emacs session and ycombinator renders great

eadmund 5y ago
Eww & emacs-w3m are different though. Both are great in different ways.

frogcoder 5y ago

Just curious, what are the advantages using w3m instead of eww?

m4lvin 5y ago
One example: When I open this page here, in eww all comments have the same left margin and I have no idea what is a reply to what, but with emacs-w3m the nesting structure is visible.
- tomxor 5y ago
  Strange, I'm trying out standalone w3m right now and also don't get nesting. Maybe the emacs version is different. I'm guessing HN must indent with CSS (which w3m pointed out it does not attempt to support) even though the comments are in a table.
  - lambdaba 5y ago
    Actually, HN indents with a spacer gif, in true early 00's fashion :) <img src="s.gif" height="1" width="66">
    - tomxor 5y ago
      hah, I love it.

abzug 5y ago

You can also have WebKit embedded in Emacs.

pmoriarty 5y ago
I don't want images, though. I just want plain text. I also don't want javascript, as it opens me up to all sorts of javascript vulnerabilities and tracking. emacs-w3m is just text, no images, and javascript, which is exactly what I want.

neilv 5y ago

Agreed. About 20 years ago, I used the Emacs w3m support to let me browse HTML programming language books while coding on a 48 MB RAM laptop. https://www.neilvandyke.org/w3mnav/ https://www.neilvandyke.org/w3mnav/ https://www.neilvandyke.org/quack/ https://www.neilvandyke.org/quack/ https://www.neilvandyke.org/linux-thinkpad-560e/ https://www.neilvandyke.org/linux-thinkpad-560e/ Getting docs into an efficient "IDE" is still nice. Just yesterday, I was using nov.el to occasionally reference Blandy et al.'s Rust book in Emacs, faster than I could the PDF or in a dedicated ebook reader program.

ArtWomb 5y ago

emacs-w3m is exactly what I'm searching for. Regex to mine useful data from web sites has become a necessary evil. Ideal use case would be running webircgateway. Private self hosted irc chan for remote team. Accessed via emacs shell as we share code ;)