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Not...sure...if...want? I use Thunderbird, and I appreciated past "baked-in" additions like PGP support, but, I kinda just want my email client to be an email

Not...sure...if...want? I use Thunderbird, and I appreciated past "baked-in" additions like PGP support, but, I kinda just want my email client to be an email client.

Toadtoad 5y ago
It's been a chat client for such a long time that I think it makes sense to add Matrix support, which is a much more modern protocol than the others supported. I think we've all just forgot that it has chat features, since it only supported protocols like Google Talk, IRC, and XMPP.
mdaniel 5y ago
From looking at the diff, it seems to be in the same vein as the IRC, XMPP, Google Talk(!), and some weird network I've never heard of "Odnoklassniki" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odnoklassniki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odnoklassniki) https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/instant-messaging-and-chat#w_start-the-new-account-wizard https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/instant-messaging-and-c... So, in other words: it merely expands the already shipping chat clients to be just one more
- AdmiralAsshat 5y ago
  Fair enough, I guess. I never realized Thunderbird already supported those. I always had HexChat, Pidgin, or Fractal for IRC/GTalk/Matrix at the ready instead.
  - mdaniel 5y ago
    It has a good (at least for my purposes) RSS reader, too, which is actually my primary use for it lately https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-subscribe-news-feeds-and-blogs https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-subscribe-news-feed...
  - jokoon 5y ago
    Thunderbird supports irc?
    - TingPing 5y ago
      It's called Chatzilla, it's not great nor widely used.
      - aaronmdjones 5y ago
        On the contrary; Thunderbird's chat has built-in IRC support which you can use without installing something like ChatZilla [1][2]. It's not very good, though, including warts such as automatically attempting an SASL login with your credentials, even if you've never registered a services account on the IRC network [3]. [1] https://i.imgur.com/LQrzpoy.png https://i.imgur.com/LQrzpoy.png [2] https://i.imgur.com/X8idAGl.png https://i.imgur.com/X8idAGl.png [3] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1618061 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1618061
tomjen3 5y ago
Thunderbird also has support for Usenet out of the box. I think the product sees itself more as a complete communication program than just an email program, even if that is what most people use it for.
wsmwk 5y ago
Chat came to Thunderbird for free - it was developed by a different team and they offered to integrate it, and did so. This is great for users who are looking for unified communications. Further, chat sessions are index searchable if the user has enabled it.

Not...sure...if...want? I use Thunderbird, and I appreciated past "baked-in" additions like PGP support, but, I kinda just want my email client to be an email client.

Toadtoad 5y ago

It's been a chat client for such a long time that I think it makes sense to add Matrix support, which is a much more modern protocol than the others supported. I think we've all just forgot that it has chat features, since it only supported protocols like Google Talk, IRC, and XMPP.

mdaniel 5y ago

From looking at the diff, it seems to be in the same vein as the IRC, XMPP, Google Talk(!), and some weird network I've never heard of "Odnoklassniki" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odnoklassniki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odnoklassniki) https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/instant-messaging-and-chat#w_start-the-new-account-wizard https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/instant-messaging-and-c... So, in other words: it merely expands the already shipping chat clients to be just one more

AdmiralAsshat 5y ago
Fair enough, I guess. I never realized Thunderbird already supported those. I always had HexChat, Pidgin, or Fractal for IRC/GTalk/Matrix at the ready instead.
- mdaniel 5y ago
  It has a good (at least for my purposes) RSS reader, too, which is actually my primary use for it lately https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-subscribe-news-feeds-and-blogs https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-subscribe-news-feed...
- jokoon 5y ago
  Thunderbird supports irc?
  - TingPing 5y ago
    It's called Chatzilla, it's not great nor widely used.
    - aaronmdjones 5y ago
      On the contrary; Thunderbird's chat has built-in IRC support which you can use without installing something like ChatZilla [1][2]. It's not very good, though, including warts such as automatically attempting an SASL login with your credentials, even if you've never registered a services account on the IRC network [3]. [1] https://i.imgur.com/LQrzpoy.png https://i.imgur.com/LQrzpoy.png [2] https://i.imgur.com/X8idAGl.png https://i.imgur.com/X8idAGl.png [3] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1618061 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1618061

tomjen3 5y ago

Thunderbird also has support for Usenet out of the box. I think the product sees itself more as a complete communication program than just an email program, even if that is what most people use it for.

wsmwk 5y ago

Chat came to Thunderbird for free - it was developed by a different team and they offered to integrate it, and did so. This is great for users who are looking for unified communications. Further, chat sessions are index searchable if the user has enabled it.