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A few months ago I went to install Notepad++ and the installer says "Software is like sex: It's better when it's free" so I closed and deleted the installer. (I

A few months ago I went to install Notepad++ and the installer says "Software is like sex: It's better when it's free" so I closed and deleted the installer. (It still says that today.) Glad to see an alternative I can install!

lfkdev 5y ago
Wheres the problem with this sentence?
- novocantico 5y ago
  It's nice when I come across a readme that's playful and doesn't take itself very seriously. It shows the real humans behind the software. This is something else.
  - artogahr 5y ago
    What is it?
    - novocantico 5y ago
      Why is catcalling offensive but flirting welcome?
      - CivBase 5y ago
        Can you elaborate on how you feel this sentence relates to catcalling or flirting?
        novocantico 5y ago
        No.
        GartzenDeHaes 5y ago
        Ti and Do and their students (crew) have come from a genderless, crew-minded, service-oriented world that finds greed, lust, and self- serving pursuits abhorrent. Marshall Herff Applewhite Jr.
svnpenn 5y ago
You can install either one. You're choosing not to. However I do agree, that is idiotic text to include.
donkarma 5y ago
what's up with that
nittanymount 5y ago
notepad++ site is so political, do not like that, stopped using it for years... it is the author's freedom for sure.
- behrlich 5y ago
  Trying to understand this sentiment. Why does it matter? What do the authors’ politics have to do with using the software or not? Do you generally avoid any company that does any political speech?
  - greggsy 5y ago
    I don’t really care, but it’s a bit childish. At least it’s not mentioned anywhere else when you’re using it.
  - coolso 5y ago
    For me, I try to avoid politics in general since I’m (along with everyone else) so inundated with it on a daily basis. It’s so wonderful and refreshing to find places where it doesn’t exist and isn’t mentioned. No matter how much bad is going on in the world we all need to be able to mentally escape it. It’s just one of those vital things. So when you go to download the newest version of one of your fav text editors and you’re faced with messages like “you guys support who I support in the war right?! You should because the other guy is crazy! I stand with this side, I’m literally changing the world!” and I just gotta sigh and roll my eyes. Sir this is an Arby’s.
  - mywittyname 5y ago
    I formulate opinions of people when I hear their political leanings; usually negative ones. I have no reason for this, and frankly, I don't want to do it. It just happens. And yes, I do avoid companies with outspoken political views that I disagree with, especially if their actions tangibly harm other people.
  - guilhas 5y ago
    People disagree very easily in political matters. And when I am trying to focus on work or my personal projects I don't need to be roped into some pointless ideological discussion or metal state. For that we can go to HN It works like advertisement for ideology Imagine you are installing Chrome and the installer shows a banner saying: we support Trump, Biden, Ukraine, Russia, China, invading Iraq... You might then feel uncomfortable using/contributing to software that has nothing to do with politics, because of a developer founded/random/misguided opinion
rubyist5eva 5y ago
You prefer paying for sex?
lukas099 5y ago
It's nice to see freedom at play here — freedom of the developers to include sentences which might offend, and freedom of the offended to use a fork instead. I respect both of your decisions.
gkbrk 5y ago
I don't understand the problem. Do you think all sex should be a paid transaction with cash, or are you just opposed to people using the word?
- politelemon 5y ago
  And could said transaction be paid for with free software instead?
- beeboop 5y ago
  I think the problem is likely stigmatizing sex workers as less desirable which is sort of narrow-minded and perhaps dehumanizing. There's a large imposition of morality that isn't necessarily shared by everyone.
  - novocantico 5y ago
    You're all overthinking it. I just don't like to hear about sex when I'm writing software. Is that so hard to imagine?
    - QuikAccount 5y ago
      Is it hard to imagine that a single sentence in the installer about sex offends you so much that you refuse to use the software? Yeah that's kinda hard for me to imagine.
      - omegaham 5y ago
        In a world of many, many alternatives, I feel like someone's preferences can be as arbitrary as they want them to be. It's less a statement about the magnitude of the offense and more of a statement of "I have all of these options. Why would I pick one that annoys me, even slightly?" To use a hypothetical example - a cereal company puts some tasteless comment in an unobtrusive corner of the box. You don't have to look at it if you don't want to - you can turn the box, or put the cereal into another container, or just not read the box that closely. But why would you want to when there are 45 other brands of cereal on the supermarket shelf?
lancebeet 5y ago
There seems to be at least one person agreeing with you: https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/10778 https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issue...
- ianai 5y ago
  If I understand that history correctly, they tagged it "reject" which I'm taking to mean they won't change that text.
prmoustache 5y ago
I don't really see where the problem lied but whatever. Sounds strange to base a (free) software choice on a note in an installer.
- z3t4 5y ago
  It is my experience as a developer of a text editor, that text edtor/IDE users make the decision whether to learn/use an editor within seconds. Just a quick look and it has been decided, in 3 seconds what they will spend their next 10000 hours working with. I do not understand this, but it is a phenomena. It's like when we look at the opposite sex and decides if he/she might become our future partner and live the rest of our life together - and the decision is made within seconds. At least the filtering-out.
spaniard89277 5y ago
For real?
sandreas 5y ago
I created a pull request to change this text. Let's hope it'll be accepted ;) https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/pull/11503 https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/pull/...
WD-42 5y ago
The author's (donho) Github profile reads: > GitHub is my Tinder, to flirt with developers, by using the romantic source code poetry. I don't think he gaf whether people are offended by the word "sex".
- oblio 5y ago
  He constantly names Notepad++ releases after political topics he does not like, he's very political. And if you look at the things he's covered, he seems to be a good person.
- snvzz 5y ago
  It apparently only does take 3 characters to offend people.
- midasz 5y ago
  I love this guy
throwaway675309 5y ago
I think we should more of this stuff to hopefully desensitize people over time. When abstract symbols can somehow evoke such a visceral reaction in a person, that's the kind of stuff that scares me. Side note: Remember winamps start audio?

lfkdev 5y ago

Wheres the problem with this sentence?

novocantico 5y ago
It's nice when I come across a readme that's playful and doesn't take itself very seriously. It shows the real humans behind the software. This is something else.
- artogahr 5y ago
  What is it?
  - novocantico 5y ago
    Why is catcalling offensive but flirting welcome?
    - CivBase 5y ago
      Can you elaborate on how you feel this sentence relates to catcalling or flirting?
      - novocantico 5y ago
        No.
      - GartzenDeHaes 5y ago
        Ti and Do and their students (crew) have come from a genderless, crew-minded, service-oriented world that finds greed, lust, and self- serving pursuits abhorrent. Marshall Herff Applewhite Jr.

svnpenn 5y ago

You can install either one. You're choosing not to. However I do agree, that is idiotic text to include.

donkarma 5y ago

what's up with that

nittanymount 5y ago

notepad++ site is so political, do not like that, stopped using it for years... it is the author's freedom for sure.

behrlich 5y ago
Trying to understand this sentiment. Why does it matter? What do the authors’ politics have to do with using the software or not? Do you generally avoid any company that does any political speech?
- greggsy 5y ago
  I don’t really care, but it’s a bit childish. At least it’s not mentioned anywhere else when you’re using it.
- coolso 5y ago
  For me, I try to avoid politics in general since I’m (along with everyone else) so inundated with it on a daily basis. It’s so wonderful and refreshing to find places where it doesn’t exist and isn’t mentioned. No matter how much bad is going on in the world we all need to be able to mentally escape it. It’s just one of those vital things. So when you go to download the newest version of one of your fav text editors and you’re faced with messages like “you guys support who I support in the war right?! You should because the other guy is crazy! I stand with this side, I’m literally changing the world!” and I just gotta sigh and roll my eyes. Sir this is an Arby’s.
- mywittyname 5y ago
  I formulate opinions of people when I hear their political leanings; usually negative ones. I have no reason for this, and frankly, I don't want to do it. It just happens. And yes, I do avoid companies with outspoken political views that I disagree with, especially if their actions tangibly harm other people.
- guilhas 5y ago
  People disagree very easily in political matters. And when I am trying to focus on work or my personal projects I don't need to be roped into some pointless ideological discussion or metal state. For that we can go to HN It works like advertisement for ideology Imagine you are installing Chrome and the installer shows a banner saying: we support Trump, Biden, Ukraine, Russia, China, invading Iraq... You might then feel uncomfortable using/contributing to software that has nothing to do with politics, because of a developer founded/random/misguided opinion

rubyist5eva 5y ago

You prefer paying for sex?

lukas099 5y ago

It's nice to see freedom at play here — freedom of the developers to include sentences which might offend, and freedom of the offended to use a fork instead. I respect both of your decisions.

gkbrk 5y ago

I don't understand the problem. Do you think all sex should be a paid transaction with cash, or are you just opposed to people using the word?

politelemon 5y ago
And could said transaction be paid for with free software instead?
beeboop 5y ago
I think the problem is likely stigmatizing sex workers as less desirable which is sort of narrow-minded and perhaps dehumanizing. There's a large imposition of morality that isn't necessarily shared by everyone.
- novocantico 5y ago
  You're all overthinking it. I just don't like to hear about sex when I'm writing software. Is that so hard to imagine?
  - QuikAccount 5y ago
    Is it hard to imagine that a single sentence in the installer about sex offends you so much that you refuse to use the software? Yeah that's kinda hard for me to imagine.
    - omegaham 5y ago
      In a world of many, many alternatives, I feel like someone's preferences can be as arbitrary as they want them to be. It's less a statement about the magnitude of the offense and more of a statement of "I have all of these options. Why would I pick one that annoys me, even slightly?" To use a hypothetical example - a cereal company puts some tasteless comment in an unobtrusive corner of the box. You don't have to look at it if you don't want to - you can turn the box, or put the cereal into another container, or just not read the box that closely. But why would you want to when there are 45 other brands of cereal on the supermarket shelf?

lancebeet 5y ago

There seems to be at least one person agreeing with you: https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issues/10778 https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/issue...

ianai 5y ago
If I understand that history correctly, they tagged it "reject" which I'm taking to mean they won't change that text.

prmoustache 5y ago

I don't really see where the problem lied but whatever. Sounds strange to base a (free) software choice on a note in an installer.

z3t4 5y ago
It is my experience as a developer of a text editor, that text edtor/IDE users make the decision whether to learn/use an editor within seconds. Just a quick look and it has been decided, in 3 seconds what they will spend their next 10000 hours working with. I do not understand this, but it is a phenomena. It's like when we look at the opposite sex and decides if he/she might become our future partner and live the rest of our life together - and the decision is made within seconds. At least the filtering-out.

spaniard89277 5y ago

For real?

sandreas 5y ago

I created a pull request to change this text. Let's hope it'll be accepted ;) https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/pull/11503 https://github.com/notepad-plus-plus/notepad-plus-plus/pull/...

WD-42 5y ago

The author's (donho) Github profile reads: > GitHub is my Tinder, to flirt with developers, by using the romantic source code poetry. I don't think he gaf whether people are offended by the word "sex".

oblio 5y ago
He constantly names Notepad++ releases after political topics he does not like, he's very political. And if you look at the things he's covered, he seems to be a good person.
snvzz 5y ago
It apparently only does take 3 characters to offend people.
midasz 5y ago
I love this guy

throwaway675309 5y ago

I think we should more of this stuff to hopefully desensitize people over time. When abstract symbols can somehow evoke such a visceral reaction in a person, that's the kind of stuff that scares me. Side note: Remember winamps start audio?