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Since the two experiments have already conflicting results, this likely will/should be replicated, before we can believe this result. As an example, this experi
by mandy12xx 4y ago
Since the two experiments have already conflicting results, this likely will/should be replicated, before we can believe this result. As an example, this experiment on neutrinos traveling faster than light was later proved wrong. https://www.nature.com/articles/news.2011.554 https://www.nature.com/articles/news.2011.554.
- kitd 4y agoThe BBC article on this says there have been hints from other experiments that support these results, but they need deeper analysis: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-60993523 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-60993523 The result, published in the journal Science, could be related to hints from other experiments at Fermilab and the Large Hadron Collider at the Swiss-French border. These, as yet unconfirmed results, also suggest deviations from the Standard Model, possibly as a result of an as yet undiscovered fifth force of nature at play.
- T-A 4y agoFrom the same article: But the excitement in the physics community is tempered with a loud note of caution. Although the Fermilab result is the most accurate measurement of the mass of the W boson to date, it is at odds with two of the next most accurate measurements from two separate experiments which are in line with the Standard Model.
- londons_explore 4y agoSo... 2 experiments + theory Vs 1 'better' experiment. I know which side I'd bet on.
- andrewflnr 4y agoNo one, including the original scientists IIUC, needed to be convinced the FTL-neutrino result was wrong. It was just a matter of what went wrong.
- i_no_can_eat 4y agoTell that to the authors of the dozens of papers that showed up on the arxiv "explaining" the result.
- andrewflnr 4y agoOk, fine, no one smart.
- cshimmin 4y agoIndeed, IIRC some of the members of the collaboration even opted to have their name omitted from the author list.
- hnlmorg 4y agoI remember this well. At the time even the scientists involved didn’t think they’d broken the speed of light. A lot of news publications still ran with the headline that physics had been broken though, because that generates more newspaper sales / ad revenue.
- retSava 4y agoI'm increasingly moving towards first introspection, "am I feeling surprised or upset at this?" and if true, I skip reading it. It's a trick that can't always be applied of course, but in situations like this one, it's a pretty good one. Also, all the "will surprise you", "happens next", etc are instant ctrl+w (close tab).
- Sharlin 4y agoIf it sounds too good to be true, it almost always is. (“Good” may be replaced with certain other adjectives such as “exciting” or “revolutionary”.)
- dm319 4y agoI'm similar, but every now and then you overlook something really big.
- HPsquared 4y agoIf it's big enough, you'll become aware of it anyway.
- FredPret 4y agoIIRC, the culprit was latency in their GPU connections