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how would one go about skipping directly to the thrid?
by roci-ceres 4y ago
how would one go about skipping directly to the thrid?
- mathematicaster 4y agoJust do it (tm).
- cl42 4y agoUnfortunately, I don't think you can. I think each phase builds on the prior one; the life experience informing the emotions you feel. The tragic phase is a result of not living up to the unrealistic expectations one has, and the comedic phase is a result of dealing with those tragic emotions.
- theguru2323 4y agoMaybe you are closer to it than you realise. I don't think there are age limits to any of this stuff. A decade of life for one man, is but a Tuesday of another.
- Sevii 4y agoYou can't skip to wisdom.
- nradov 4y agoSure you can. Learn from people wiser than yourself. A lot of them have written books.
- robbedpeter 4y agoAnd there's always Tony Robbins, Jordan Peterson, and a wealth of other self-help types. Picking any system is better than nothing, and gives you context for selecting good ones once you're familiar. Coast on other people's wisdom until you earn your own.
- dgfitz 4y agoI would hesitate to endorse Robbins. He’s had a litany of sexual abuse claims against him, among other legal problems
- shard 4y agoI despair at the modern trope of dismissing something of worth due to a person's thoughts/actions in an unrelated area (in modern parlance, "cancelling" someone). It seems like an ad hominem attack to me. How will this trend evolve in the future? Will the works of people like Beethoven, da Vinci, Einstein be cancelled due to them being meat eaters? (Substitute someone of equal stature if the people listed are actually vegetarians)
- solveit 4y agoLife wisdom would seem to be an area where you should be wary of following advice from serial sex abusers... (I know nothing of Robbins, I just wanted to discuss the general heuristic).
- basq 4y agotrue words spoken by a false man, makes them false.
- robbedpeter 4y agoWell, no. That's what thinking is for. To separate words from their source and consider them for their content. A reading of Principia Mathematica by Hitler doesn't tarnish or invalidate the words in any way. Context matters. Basing judgment on the source of an idea isn't a perfect tool for navigating life. If someone is telling you lots of true things but in a way to compromise you, or to sell you something, or to get you to join a cult, then who that person is provides valuable context. If you want a system, Peterson has a ready-made and inoffensive set of rules to play off of. It has a built in technique to improve on the rules that doesn't compromise your ability to think about new material (whereas scientology or other religious systems cripple you deliberately.) Identifying a collection of true things is the point, and then looking for good faith operators willing to share their model of successful behavior. Robbins is a typical self help guy, and the value is there, but to me it's been most useful as a baseline against which to measure other systems. Robbins represents the line of hucksterism for me, where if you're playing with those ideas and presentation techniques you might not be legitimate. I think he's mostly just over that line on the side of authentic, but he often falls short.
- oh_sigh 4y agoSkipping directly just makes you a clown.
- philosopher1234 4y agoWhy would you want to skip? To prove your power :)? A bit of irony
- maxFlow 4y agoShould you? Can you? Ah, the sudden school vs the gradual school. The debate lingers (see siblings).
- kirsebaer 4y agoYou can experience heroic drama, tragedy, and comedy all at the same time or all within the same day. Just look for them as they happen. Or think back to what you did yesterday and interpret what you did from the perspective of each of these stages.
- verisimilidude 4y agoSerious personal tragedy can compress the middle phase into a very short period of time. Comedy is born where hope dies. Devastating disease or injury, a long jail sentence, a ruinous lawsuit, living through a war, etc. Most of the quick routes to lifelong wisdom are not desirable.
- xtracto 4y agoFor me it came not long ago (just starting my 40s): A film I was just watching had a great quote: "The universe isn't evil but it sure has a nasty sense of humour: I found the person I should am meant to be with, but I can't be with her" Something vaguely similar happened to me: I suffered from a very strong cronic IBS-C for 20 years, since my University time. Around January 2022, I found a real cure for this 20 year long ailment (a very specific probiotic strain). I spent a couple of weeks really living amazingly, as I haven't lived in 20 years. Then, on February I got the Astra Zeneca booster COVID vaccine, and as a result, I got long COVID symptoms and a stroke (Transient ischemic attack), and now I'm on aspirin for the rest of my life, and feeling like shit. Aaah the universe has a nasty sense of humor indeed.
- TurkishPoptart 4y agoI'm sorry to hear that. That's why I never got any "boosters" - there's no long-term safety data whatsoever.
- ajolly 4y agoI'm curious to hear more about this probiotic?
- hackerfromthefu 4y agoWhich probiotic helped you?
- needlefish 4y agoIMO it would be something like not trying to skip anything. Really internalizing and enjoying the folly of youth as it happens.